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Sigh. Apple just got another excuse to make its charging and data cable even more incompatible with other devices in the name of security ... Security is highly

Sigh. Apple just got another excuse to make its charging and data cable even more incompatible with other devices in the name of security ... Security is highly desired. But as a consumer the incompatibilities and the impossible-to-repair part is highly irksome. As is the price-gauging.

jbuhbjlnjbn 5y ago
This is an unfortunate situation - there is a legitimate argument to be made for quality accessories, safety (of melting, burning, frying ports) and security, but the flipside is, most OEMs are shameless in their ways of overcharging you for that (especially Apple).
gumby 5y ago
> Apple just got another excuse to make its charging and data cable even more incompatible ... (emphasis mine) Not sure where you are going here. Apple’s USB C cables and chargers are ordinary, standards-compliant devices. They do still have lightning devices (predating Type C), but the other end of those are standard USB type A and type C connections. Type C is the upgrade path; my Mac and iPad use them. I’m sure when they switch their phones to type c there will be much anguish about the “incompatibility” — just as when they introduced the USB-based iMac in 1998!
- webmobdev 5y ago
  Not sure where you are going here. Apple is known to make its accessories highly incompatible with existing standards and charge an exorbitant price for it. Security is one of the reason they cite for it. Apple’s USB C cables and chargers are ordinary, standards-compliant devices That's good to hear. But does that mean that non-Apple USB-C cable also work fine on USB-C Apple devices for both charging and data transfer? I am curious about this as Apple's lightening cable all include a chip and the iDevices won't work with a lightening cable with an unapproved chip in it. Do Apple's USB-C cable also include a chip?
  - gumby 5y ago
    I use a variety of vendors for USB c cables, and PD power supplies, and Qi chargers and all work fine. > Apple is known to make its accessories highly incompatible with existing standards Apart from using 30-pin and lighting I have not know this to be true in the usb era. Typically they are quite compliant but very strict, and use the standard identifiers to operate external devices rather than third party drivers. Their Bluetooth gear works with android and other devices. Note their watch has its own charger.

jbuhbjlnjbn 5y ago

This is an unfortunate situation - there is a legitimate argument to be made for quality accessories, safety (of melting, burning, frying ports) and security, but the flipside is, most OEMs are shameless in their ways of overcharging you for that (especially Apple).

gumby 5y ago

> Apple just got another excuse to make its charging and data cable even more incompatible ... (emphasis mine) Not sure where you are going here. Apple’s USB C cables and chargers are ordinary, standards-compliant devices. They do still have lightning devices (predating Type C), but the other end of those are standard USB type A and type C connections. Type C is the upgrade path; my Mac and iPad use them. I’m sure when they switch their phones to type c there will be much anguish about the “incompatibility” — just as when they introduced the USB-based iMac in 1998!

webmobdev 5y ago
Not sure where you are going here. Apple is known to make its accessories highly incompatible with existing standards and charge an exorbitant price for it. Security is one of the reason they cite for it. Apple’s USB C cables and chargers are ordinary, standards-compliant devices That's good to hear. But does that mean that non-Apple USB-C cable also work fine on USB-C Apple devices for both charging and data transfer? I am curious about this as Apple's lightening cable all include a chip and the iDevices won't work with a lightening cable with an unapproved chip in it. Do Apple's USB-C cable also include a chip?
- gumby 5y ago
  I use a variety of vendors for USB c cables, and PD power supplies, and Qi chargers and all work fine. > Apple is known to make its accessories highly incompatible with existing standards Apart from using 30-pin and lighting I have not know this to be true in the usb era. Typically they are quite compliant but very strict, and use the standard identifiers to operate external devices rather than third party drivers. Their Bluetooth gear works with android and other devices. Note their watch has its own charger.