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Exactly, i don't understand how he can pin this on google. Sure, it's a problem that google ranks a ripoff over the main site (as they did with SO before), but

by mtogo 15y ago

Exactly, i don't understand how he can pin this on google. Sure, it's a problem that google ranks a ripoff over the main site (as they did with SO before), but if you install jQuery from the wrong site, not once noticing the italian TLD, that's your own fault.

smackfu 15y ago
Well, the Italian TLD is not really a red flag in these days of "cute" domain names. Which is the real page for BackPack? http://backpackit.com/ http://backpackit.com/ http://backpack.it/ http://backpack.it/ If the "wrong" one had the same content as the right one, would you know which one to pick?
- foresterh 15y ago
  The website that actually works, in this case...?
knowtheory 15y ago
Dude was careless, but that hardly excuses the blame the user mentality. People live in an ecosystem which bias behavior. Dude expected top ranking page to be the jquery site (invalid assumption) and presumably that if the top ranked site wasn't the jquery site, it wouldn't be spoofing the actual jquery site. Dude fell for what amounts to a phishing scam. Sure he should have been on better guard, but the circumstances definitely contributed to his user error.
- mtogo 15y ago
  Looks like i pissed some people off with this. Maybe a few other people fell for this too? "Dude was careless" is the entire point. Google should not have ranked that site above jQuery's site, but you should check that you are at least downloading your JS from the right domain.
  - SoftwareMaven 15y ago
    Now imagine it's your first time getting a copy of JQuery because you've heard how awesome it is. You go to Google to find the JQuery site. How would you ever know it was a fraudulent site? Google is providing a service that vouches for the authenticity of sites by their ranking in the search results. They failed.
    - AndyJPartridge 15y ago
      Google is providing a service that gives search results based on keywords you enter. They try to be helpful by ranking them in some fashion, but at the end of the day it's up to you how you use the results that are returned.
  - msbarnett 15y ago
    We know from decades of research into human psychology and the causes of accidents that our attention spans are not infinite and that we will often see what we are expecting to see. In my first glance at the spoofed site I did not see the .it in the domain, because the entire context of the site convinced my brain that I would see the URL I was expecting, blog.jquery.com. We can either rail against the realities of human nature and persist in blaming the user, or we can accept that asking the user to check everything always is a plan guaranteed to fail, and build better tools to help eliminate the problem. I vote for pragmatism and better tools.
LaGrange 15y ago
Yeah. Let's depend on people always doing the right thing. That's why even flight regulations depend on everybody being extra-careful. Only not: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tenerife_disaster#Safety_response http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tenerife_disaster#Safety_respon...

by mtogo 15y ago

smackfu 15y ago

Well, the Italian TLD is not really a red flag in these days of "cute" domain names. Which is the real page for BackPack? http://backpackit.com/ http://backpackit.com/ http://backpack.it/ http://backpack.it/ If the "wrong" one had the same content as the right one, would you know which one to pick?

foresterh 15y ago
The website that actually works, in this case...?

knowtheory 15y ago

Dude was careless, but that hardly excuses the blame the user mentality. People live in an ecosystem which bias behavior. Dude expected top ranking page to be the jquery site (invalid assumption) and presumably that if the top ranked site wasn't the jquery site, it wouldn't be spoofing the actual jquery site. Dude fell for what amounts to a phishing scam. Sure he should have been on better guard, but the circumstances definitely contributed to his user error.

mtogo 15y ago
Looks like i pissed some people off with this. Maybe a few other people fell for this too? "Dude was careless" is the entire point. Google should not have ranked that site above jQuery's site, but you should check that you are at least downloading your JS from the right domain.
- SoftwareMaven 15y ago
  Now imagine it's your first time getting a copy of JQuery because you've heard how awesome it is. You go to Google to find the JQuery site. How would you ever know it was a fraudulent site? Google is providing a service that vouches for the authenticity of sites by their ranking in the search results. They failed.
  - AndyJPartridge 15y ago
    Google is providing a service that gives search results based on keywords you enter. They try to be helpful by ranking them in some fashion, but at the end of the day it's up to you how you use the results that are returned.
- msbarnett 15y ago
  We know from decades of research into human psychology and the causes of accidents that our attention spans are not infinite and that we will often see what we are expecting to see. In my first glance at the spoofed site I did not see the .it in the domain, because the entire context of the site convinced my brain that I would see the URL I was expecting, blog.jquery.com. We can either rail against the realities of human nature and persist in blaming the user, or we can accept that asking the user to check everything always is a plan guaranteed to fail, and build better tools to help eliminate the problem. I vote for pragmatism and better tools.

LaGrange 15y ago

Yeah. Let's depend on people always doing the right thing. That's why even flight regulations depend on everybody being extra-careful. Only not: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tenerife_disaster#Safety_response http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tenerife_disaster#Safety_respon...