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> It's easy to remove the incentive: Just add some statewide delegates that are elected based on the "wasted" votes. Can you make this more generic so that peo

> It's easy to remove the incentive: Just add some statewide delegates that are elected based on the "wasted" votes. Can you make this more generic so that people who don't understand the US political system could follow your proposal?

jeltz 5y ago
He is proposing MMP (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mixed-member_proportional_representation https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mixed-member_proportional_re...) or something like it. Where some seats are awarded based on who gets the most votes in the election district while the rest of the seats are awarded in a way which compensates and achieves a total seat distribution which matches popular vote.
- thomasahle 5y ago
  I was actually thinking about Party-list proportional representation (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Party-list_proportional_representation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Party-list_proportional_repres...), but mostly because I hadn't heard about MMP. I'm still not quite sure what the difference is.
  - sofixa 5y ago
    The difference is that with mixed you vote for a person and a list of people ( party), not only for a party.
    - thomasahle 5y ago
      In party list systems you also often vote for a candidate: "Voters may vote for the party, as in [...]; or for candidates whose vote total will pool to the party/parties.
  - Dagonfly 5y ago
    MMP by definition guarantees a direct representative for each district. You can think of it as FPTP (per district) and a party-list election at the same time. The FPTP winner in each district gets a guaranteed seat, but the remaining seats are filled (based on the party lists) such that the final proportions in parlament match the party-list election. In theory, you get the best of both worlds: a direct representative for everyone and parlament according to popular vote.

4 ms·

> It's easy to remove the incentive: Just add some statewide delegates that are elected based on the "wasted" votes. Can you make this more generic so that peo

by tchalla 5y ago

jeltz 5y ago
He is proposing MMP (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mixed-member_proportional_representation https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mixed-member_proportional_re...) or something like it. Where some seats are awarded based on who gets the most votes in the election district while the rest of the seats are awarded in a way which compensates and achieves a total seat distribution which matches popular vote.
- thomasahle 5y ago
  I was actually thinking about Party-list proportional representation (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Party-list_proportional_representation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Party-list_proportional_repres...), but mostly because I hadn't heard about MMP. I'm still not quite sure what the difference is.
  - sofixa 5y ago
    The difference is that with mixed you vote for a person and a list of people ( party), not only for a party.
    - thomasahle 5y ago
      In party list systems you also often vote for a candidate: "Voters may vote for the party, as in [...]; or for candidates whose vote total will pool to the party/parties.
  - Dagonfly 5y ago
    MMP by definition guarantees a direct representative for each district. You can think of it as FPTP (per district) and a party-list election at the same time. The FPTP winner in each district gets a guaranteed seat, but the remaining seats are filled (based on the party lists) such that the final proportions in parlament match the party-list election. In theory, you get the best of both worlds: a direct representative for everyone and parlament according to popular vote.