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> The fact that the very first decision I have to make when visiting a website is about an issue I don't five a flying f&$# about is mind-boggling. You seem to

by gspr 5y ago

> The fact that the very first decision I have to make when visiting a website is about an issue I don't five a flying f&$# about is mind-boggling. You seem to have a hard time understanding that laws may be designed to protect people who are not you.

nickpp 5y ago
What percent of the population do you think has as the first priority when visiting a website the detail that they are tracked or not? What percent do you think even cares? And what is the law protecting them against?! I still have to discover the horrifying malice tracking does to visitors. So far I know two downsides: resource usage and ads following you. Now compare that with the gigantic waste of time when hunting and answering the stupid popup every time I visit a new site... This is how it is when a bureaucrat decides to protect you from yourself: reminds me of the War on Drugs.
- gspr 5y ago
  > What percent of the population do you think has as the first priority when visiting a website the detail that they are tracked or not? Why does it have to be first priority in order to matter a lot? > What percent do you think even cares? I don't know, exactly. I seem to recall that several tens of percents of people are worried about technological tracking, so I'd hazard a guess of a few tens of percents. > I still have to discover the horrifying malice tracking does to visitors. So you're one of those people who'd happily stream your bathroom to the public? > This is how it is when a bureaucrat decides to protect you from yourself: reminds me of the War on Drugs. What a terrible analogy. It's not protecting you from yourself. You're welcome to accept all the tracking if you so wish. It's protecting you from the trackers!
  - nickpp 5y ago
    > Why does it have to be first priority in order to matter a lot? That is it: it doesn't matter to the regular Joe. At all. Because it was made first priority by throwing it into his face as the first experience when visiting a new website by this insane regulation. > several tens of percents of people are worried about technological tracking Are they truly worried about it or they are just saying that? Because there were ways to avoid tracking even before GDPR but what percent of those people used them? And are they worried enough to pay some membership or simply stop visiting the offending website?! > happily stream your bathroom to the public Are you really equating cookie tracking with bathroom privacy?! That's quite a stretch. Even then, I am not sure if there are laws protecting my bathroom privacy, but if there were I am sure they don't require me so sign some sort of waiver every time I take a dump in my own damn house! > It's protecting you from the trackers! Well now I can sleep so much better. I was quite worried about those awful trackers and their... tracking habits. Good thing those Brussels bureaucrats, in their infinite wisdom, thought to protect me against such a horrifying danger, a danger I was completely helpless to protect myself from. What other things are endangering me right now and I have no idea? Somebody call the politicians for help!
    - gspr 5y ago
      > That is it: it doesn't matter to the regular Joe. At all. That's what we're arguing about, isn't it? > Because it was made first priority by throwing it into his face as the first experience when visiting a new website by this insane regulation. I struggle to see how you go from what is the first thing you see, to what is the most important thing. > Are you really equating cookie tracking with bathroom privacy?! I am not. I am failing to understand why you think tracking is unproblematic. I'm probing to see at what point you do get concerned about invasion of privacy. > Even then, I am not sure if there are laws protecting my bathroom privacy Yeah? Try putting a camera in a bathroom that's not yours. > but if there were I am sure they don't require me so sign some sort of waiver every time I take a dump in my own damn house! Nor does a properly implemented, conformant GDPR dialog. > Well now I can sleep so much better. I was quite worried about those awful trackers and their... tracking habits. I do understand that you don't care that you're being tracked. That's fine. Carry on. I do not accept your premise that nobody cares. You are not the only person in society. If you are not in a wheelchair, I'm sure you don't personally need wheelchair ramps. Are you angry about those being mandated too? > Good thing those Brussels bureaucrats, I should have brought out my bingo board. I already have two items. What's the problem with bureaucrats? What's the problem with their location? Have you been swallowing too much UKIP rhetoric?

by gspr 5y ago

nickpp 5y ago

What percent of the population do you think has as the first priority when visiting a website the detail that they are tracked or not? What percent do you think even cares? And what is the law protecting them against?! I still have to discover the horrifying malice tracking does to visitors. So far I know two downsides: resource usage and ads following you. Now compare that with the gigantic waste of time when hunting and answering the stupid popup every time I visit a new site... This is how it is when a bureaucrat decides to protect you from yourself: reminds me of the War on Drugs.

gspr 5y ago
> What percent of the population do you think has as the first priority when visiting a website the detail that they are tracked or not? Why does it have to be first priority in order to matter a lot? > What percent do you think even cares? I don't know, exactly. I seem to recall that several tens of percents of people are worried about technological tracking, so I'd hazard a guess of a few tens of percents. > I still have to discover the horrifying malice tracking does to visitors. So you're one of those people who'd happily stream your bathroom to the public? > This is how it is when a bureaucrat decides to protect you from yourself: reminds me of the War on Drugs. What a terrible analogy. It's not protecting you from yourself. You're welcome to accept all the tracking if you so wish. It's protecting you from the trackers!
- nickpp 5y ago
  > Why does it have to be first priority in order to matter a lot? That is it: it doesn't matter to the regular Joe. At all. Because it was made first priority by throwing it into his face as the first experience when visiting a new website by this insane regulation. > several tens of percents of people are worried about technological tracking Are they truly worried about it or they are just saying that? Because there were ways to avoid tracking even before GDPR but what percent of those people used them? And are they worried enough to pay some membership or simply stop visiting the offending website?! > happily stream your bathroom to the public Are you really equating cookie tracking with bathroom privacy?! That's quite a stretch. Even then, I am not sure if there are laws protecting my bathroom privacy, but if there were I am sure they don't require me so sign some sort of waiver every time I take a dump in my own damn house! > It's protecting you from the trackers! Well now I can sleep so much better. I was quite worried about those awful trackers and their... tracking habits. Good thing those Brussels bureaucrats, in their infinite wisdom, thought to protect me against such a horrifying danger, a danger I was completely helpless to protect myself from. What other things are endangering me right now and I have no idea? Somebody call the politicians for help!
  - gspr 5y ago
    > That is it: it doesn't matter to the regular Joe. At all. That's what we're arguing about, isn't it? > Because it was made first priority by throwing it into his face as the first experience when visiting a new website by this insane regulation. I struggle to see how you go from what is the first thing you see, to what is the most important thing. > Are you really equating cookie tracking with bathroom privacy?! I am not. I am failing to understand why you think tracking is unproblematic. I'm probing to see at what point you do get concerned about invasion of privacy. > Even then, I am not sure if there are laws protecting my bathroom privacy Yeah? Try putting a camera in a bathroom that's not yours. > but if there were I am sure they don't require me so sign some sort of waiver every time I take a dump in my own damn house! Nor does a properly implemented, conformant GDPR dialog. > Well now I can sleep so much better. I was quite worried about those awful trackers and their... tracking habits. I do understand that you don't care that you're being tracked. That's fine. Carry on. I do not accept your premise that nobody cares. You are not the only person in society. If you are not in a wheelchair, I'm sure you don't personally need wheelchair ramps. Are you angry about those being mandated too? > Good thing those Brussels bureaucrats, I should have brought out my bingo board. I already have two items. What's the problem with bureaucrats? What's the problem with their location? Have you been swallowing too much UKIP rhetoric?