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To Microsoft's defense everyone does it. Everytime there is an OS update on iOS, I know I will have to go through a dozen of modals that nag me for apple servic

by cm2187 5y ago

To Microsoft's defense everyone does it. Everytime there is an OS update on iOS, I know I will have to go through a dozen of modals that nag me for apple services.

kreeben 5y ago
And what a poor defense that is. It's almost not worth mentioning.
emsy 5y ago
Good point, bad framing. We should scrutinize Apple just as much. And they're doing it for much longer. At the same time Apple forbids Apps to push ad notifications (unsuccsesfully), which is even worse.
cgufus 5y ago
Fully agree. And it still tells me that my iPhone setup is incomplete because I haven't set up Apple Pay yet.
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asddubs 5y ago
and if you visit google properties in edge, you get asked to install chrome, i think on youtube it calls it a browser "optimized for youtube" or something along those lines. To be clear, I'm not trying to justify microsofts behaviour, I think neither of these things should happen.
AnonymousPlanet 5y ago
No. Neither my Mac nor my Linux pop up ads or promotions out of the blue during normal operation. So your statement that everyone does it is simply false.
- valvar 5y ago
  Maybe if you already use the things that they are pushing on you, you won't notice anything. But every time I've updated my work laptop Apple have tried to make me opt-in to Siri after restarting with the new update -- they even add the obnoxious Siri button back to the touch bar even though I've removed it several times.
  - skohan 5y ago
    But for example, I set my default browser to Firefox once, and macOS has never nagged me about Safari since then. That's a difference isn't it?
  - AnonymousPlanet 5y ago
    I neither use Safari on the Mac nor any of their cloud offerings. No nagging. No ads. No promotions. The only thing I had to say no to is telemetry and Siri on the last major version upgrade (the dialog was already set to my previous choices).

by cm2187 5y ago

To Microsoft's defense everyone does it. Everytime there is an OS update on iOS, I know I will have to go through a dozen of modals that nag me for apple services.

kreeben 5y ago

And what a poor defense that is. It's almost not worth mentioning.

emsy 5y ago

Good point, bad framing. We should scrutinize Apple just as much. And they're doing it for much longer. At the same time Apple forbids Apps to push ad notifications (unsuccsesfully), which is even worse.

cgufus 5y ago

Fully agree. And it still tells me that my iPhone setup is incomplete because I haven't set up Apple Pay yet.

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asddubs 5y ago

and if you visit google properties in edge, you get asked to install chrome, i think on youtube it calls it a browser "optimized for youtube" or something along those lines. To be clear, I'm not trying to justify microsofts behaviour, I think neither of these things should happen.

AnonymousPlanet 5y ago

No. Neither my Mac nor my Linux pop up ads or promotions out of the blue during normal operation. So your statement that everyone does it is simply false.

valvar 5y ago
Maybe if you already use the things that they are pushing on you, you won't notice anything. But every time I've updated my work laptop Apple have tried to make me opt-in to Siri after restarting with the new update -- they even add the obnoxious Siri button back to the touch bar even though I've removed it several times.
- skohan 5y ago
  But for example, I set my default browser to Firefox once, and macOS has never nagged me about Safari since then. That's a difference isn't it?
- AnonymousPlanet 5y ago
  I neither use Safari on the Mac nor any of their cloud offerings. No nagging. No ads. No promotions. The only thing I had to say no to is telemetry and Siri on the last major version upgrade (the dialog was already set to my previous choices).