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The problem with saying legalization will solve everything is the legal industries, such as avocados, are subject to extortion by the cartels. So if you legali

The problem with saying legalization will solve everything is the legal industries, such as avocados, are subject to extortion by the cartels. So if you legalized drugs you'd just have cartels extorting the legal drug makers and have the same amount of violence and gang activity. Some areas where the local militia has replaced the police now exist because the police are too demoralized, corrupt or scared to protect the industry in that area from extortion, so the industry creates its own security force by arming local citizens. This makes a case for the second amendment. If the police are too scared to protect you, why not let people without a criminal record have guns and form a militia? https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2017/may/18/avocado-police-tancitaro-mexico-law-drug-cartels https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2017/may/18/avocado-polic...

blablablerg 5y ago
No one says it will solve everything, but taking cocaine trafficking away from them will hurt them in their pockets. There are only so much avocado entrepreneurs they can kidnap and extort. Legalizing alcohol again in the US didn't make organized crime disappear, but it did make them much weaker. It has been a success.
splittingTimes 5y ago
Good point. In that regard, i think the cartels have also latched on to the oil trade.
EdwardDiego 5y ago
> The problem with saying legalization will solve everything is the legal industries, such as avocados, are subject to extortion by the cartels. Assuming your country's police force is sufficiently independent, then the extortion will fail when the perpetrators are arrested. Technically yes, legalisation isn't the be all and end all, but then, what point is any law, if your justice system and law enforcement officers are thoroughly corrupt?
vkou 5y ago
Without high-margin profits from drugs, cartels can't maintain the manpower and incredible level of violence necessary to extort avocado growers.
ok_ok 5y ago
I really think Hacker News is the stupidest collection of people on earth. Cocaine, once it's across the border, costs at least 5k-10k per kilo in bulk. An individual kilo goes for 30k+. Do you really not get the difference between that and avocados, you fucking dimwit?

blablablerg 5y ago

No one says it will solve everything, but taking cocaine trafficking away from them will hurt them in their pockets. There are only so much avocado entrepreneurs they can kidnap and extort. Legalizing alcohol again in the US didn't make organized crime disappear, but it did make them much weaker. It has been a success.

splittingTimes 5y ago

Good point. In that regard, i think the cartels have also latched on to the oil trade.

EdwardDiego 5y ago

> The problem with saying legalization will solve everything is the legal industries, such as avocados, are subject to extortion by the cartels. Assuming your country's police force is sufficiently independent, then the extortion will fail when the perpetrators are arrested. Technically yes, legalisation isn't the be all and end all, but then, what point is any law, if your justice system and law enforcement officers are thoroughly corrupt?

vkou 5y ago

Without high-margin profits from drugs, cartels can't maintain the manpower and incredible level of violence necessary to extort avocado growers.

ok_ok 5y ago

I really think Hacker News is the stupidest collection of people on earth. Cocaine, once it's across the border, costs at least 5k-10k per kilo in bulk. An individual kilo goes for 30k+. Do you really not get the difference between that and avocados, you fucking dimwit?