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I mean if you're only hiring people to do basic web dev (front or back end) then yeah sure you don't need a CS degree, but for anything complex having a real ed

I mean if you're only hiring people to do basic web dev (front or back end) then yeah sure you don't need a CS degree, but for anything complex having a real education in CS/Math/Engineering is definitely required. Someone building a database engine or compiler isn't doing the same thing as someone building a wordpress website or someone who integrates apps into salesforce. The latter don't really require a CS education but the former definitely do. Over time I imagine the split will be made more formal and we will see the "developer" job category split up more granularly.

lmilcin 5y ago
If you look at projects, development overwhelmingly consists of websites, mobile applications and backend systems. And backend systems overwhelmingly REST APIs or some message consumers that just translate the call to couple database calls to translate the response back to the client. Even if you go somewhere like Google you will find most of their systems are just REST APIs as described above. Now, there obviously is a lot of interesting projects for you compiler or OS lovers. But there is so much choice you don't have to be ready to work on them. I mean, I don't need to learn robotics just because 0.2% (entirely made up number) of projects on job market are about writing software to control robots. So, to sum up: -- if you are in it for money, don't waste time on studying CS, just learn basic programming and hop on any project. -- learn on your employers time. How fun it is being paid and learning? -- you don't need to get every job. You only need to get one (every three years...) -- most projects are boring from the point of view of programming techniques you are going to be using. Learn to find fun somewhere else. -- if you want fun projects you can always learn what you need on your own (on your or your employers time). You aren't going to be good developer if you don't spend considerable amount of time learning for the rest of your life, anyway. Just get used to spending time learning new stuff every day.

lmilcin 5y ago

If you look at projects, development overwhelmingly consists of websites, mobile applications and backend systems. And backend systems overwhelmingly REST APIs or some message consumers that just translate the call to couple database calls to translate the response back to the client. Even if you go somewhere like Google you will find most of their systems are just REST APIs as described above. Now, there obviously is a lot of interesting projects for you compiler or OS lovers. But there is so much choice you don't have to be ready to work on them. I mean, I don't need to learn robotics just because 0.2% (entirely made up number) of projects on job market are about writing software to control robots. So, to sum up: -- if you are in it for money, don't waste time on studying CS, just learn basic programming and hop on any project. -- learn on your employers time. How fun it is being paid and learning? -- you don't need to get every job. You only need to get one (every three years...) -- most projects are boring from the point of view of programming techniques you are going to be using. Learn to find fun somewhere else. -- if you want fun projects you can always learn what you need on your own (on your or your employers time). You aren't going to be good developer if you don't spend considerable amount of time learning for the rest of your life, anyway. Just get used to spending time learning new stuff every day.