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> Legally speaking, you owe the logistics provider money separately from any contract between the logistics provider and the seller. No you don't. A transactio

by IncRnd 5y ago

> Legally speaking, you owe the logistics provider money separately from any contract between the logistics provider and the seller. No you don't. A transaction occurred That was separate from your quoted price, purchase price, shipping cost, and after a period of time passed since the delivery of the product. The purchaser is not responsible for the costs incurred by other parties. > It's similar to if you had a valet park your car, and they parked it in a pay parking lot they don’t have authorization for, and your car got ticketed/towed. Nope. That scenario is entirely different.

crooked-v 5y ago
Even in the valet scenario, the valet would be treated as the one legally responsible for the charges in, say, any sensible small claims court.
- derefr 5y ago
  No, you're responsible for the costs. The valet is responsible for the damages. Separate things happening at separate times, resolved by separate parties. The valet committed a tort — but you need to actually to sue them to get the money you're owed for that tort. Torts aren't criminal in the sense of the state resolving them in your favor without you doing any of the work. If you do nothing, you end up on the hook for the ticket/tow, and the valet gets away scot-free. Even if you pursue the tort, you'll likely have to pay the towing company before you recover the damages — because those are two separate things. The judge isn't telling the towing company who to charge. The towing company gets to charge you either way; they have a contract with the lot owner saying they can bill whoever owns a car that gets towed. When you sue for the tort, and the judge finds in your favor, the judge is just extracting the money from the other guy, to give to you, in compensation for the money you already had to pay the towing company. Because you did have to pay.

by IncRnd 5y ago

crooked-v 5y ago

Even in the valet scenario, the valet would be treated as the one legally responsible for the charges in, say, any sensible small claims court.

derefr 5y ago
No, you're responsible for the costs. The valet is responsible for the damages. Separate things happening at separate times, resolved by separate parties. The valet committed a tort — but you need to actually to sue them to get the money you're owed for that tort. Torts aren't criminal in the sense of the state resolving them in your favor without you doing any of the work. If you do nothing, you end up on the hook for the ticket/tow, and the valet gets away scot-free. Even if you pursue the tort, you'll likely have to pay the towing company before you recover the damages — because those are two separate things. The judge isn't telling the towing company who to charge. The towing company gets to charge you either way; they have a contract with the lot owner saying they can bill whoever owns a car that gets towed. When you sue for the tort, and the judge finds in your favor, the judge is just extracting the money from the other guy, to give to you, in compensation for the money you already had to pay the towing company. Because you did have to pay.