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> Sure Bitcoin suffers from high fees, but it serves well as a savings account. Does it? Your Bitcoin "savings account" would have lost over 45% of its value o

> Sure Bitcoin suffers from high fees, but it serves well as a savings account. Does it? Your Bitcoin "savings account" would have lost over 45% of its value over the past month and a half.

chrisco255 5y ago
A friend of mine paid another friend of mine $80 in BTC for a trip we did about 5 years ago. That BTC, never touched, is now worth $5000. At any rate, it's definitely volatile, because the asset class is still a small (but growing) potato in the grand scheme of commodities markets. One thing we can be sure of, it will never go negative in price, unlike oil.
- jakelazaroff 5y ago
  I'd be pretty alarmed if my untouched savings account grew by 6250% over five years.
  - chrisco255 5y ago
    Would you be alarmed if your untouched savings account debased by 50% or so in purchasing power since then?
    - jakelazaroff 5y ago
      Yes. That's the point. Bitcoin serves incredibly poorly as a savings account, along every conceivable axis.
      - chrisco255 5y ago
        When you save money, do you save for the long term or for 1.5 months from now? If you save for the long term, and you're earning 0.5% interest on your $10K, how much less can you buy with it now, in terms of real estate, rent, stocks, commodities, etc? Also, note it is entirely possible to invest on what's called a risk curve. You can allocate some portion of your savings, maybe 5-10% as a hedge. No need to go all in. Maybe 0.5%. at any rate, your savings account has cost you 50% or more in purchasing power for meaningful assets in the past 5 years. While you've gained a great deal of purchasing power if you held crypto.
- idlewords 5y ago
  Oil prices didn't go negative, the price of a financial derivative did.
  - chrisco255 5y ago
    True, but people often just use oil as shorthand for oil futures.
char8 5y ago
Depends on your timeframe. Yes i've lost a lot of my net worth compared to last month. Compared to last year, i'm up 3.5x. That's one of the things i like about using Bitcoin as a savings account, it makes me think more longterm about my finances.

> Sure Bitcoin suffers from high fees, but it serves well as a savings account. Does it? Your Bitcoin "savings account" would have lost over 45% of its value over the past month and a half.

chrisco255 5y ago

A friend of mine paid another friend of mine $80 in BTC for a trip we did about 5 years ago. That BTC, never touched, is now worth $5000. At any rate, it's definitely volatile, because the asset class is still a small (but growing) potato in the grand scheme of commodities markets. One thing we can be sure of, it will never go negative in price, unlike oil.

jakelazaroff 5y ago
I'd be pretty alarmed if my untouched savings account grew by 6250% over five years.
- chrisco255 5y ago
  Would you be alarmed if your untouched savings account debased by 50% or so in purchasing power since then?
  - jakelazaroff 5y ago
    Yes. That's the point. Bitcoin serves incredibly poorly as a savings account, along every conceivable axis.
    - chrisco255 5y ago
      When you save money, do you save for the long term or for 1.5 months from now? If you save for the long term, and you're earning 0.5% interest on your $10K, how much less can you buy with it now, in terms of real estate, rent, stocks, commodities, etc? Also, note it is entirely possible to invest on what's called a risk curve. You can allocate some portion of your savings, maybe 5-10% as a hedge. No need to go all in. Maybe 0.5%. at any rate, your savings account has cost you 50% or more in purchasing power for meaningful assets in the past 5 years. While you've gained a great deal of purchasing power if you held crypto.
idlewords 5y ago
Oil prices didn't go negative, the price of a financial derivative did.
- chrisco255 5y ago
  True, but people often just use oil as shorthand for oil futures.

char8 5y ago

Depends on your timeframe. Yes i've lost a lot of my net worth compared to last month. Compared to last year, i'm up 3.5x. That's one of the things i like about using Bitcoin as a savings account, it makes me think more longterm about my finances.