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Pretty crap what MS is doing. The $10/15 per handset seems so high, what exactly is this patent that they're referring to?

by JonoW 15y ago

bluedanieru 15y ago
With the current state of patents, probably 'use electricity to do stuff' or something similar.
- Create 15y ago
  You are about to destroy the myth of Edison & Co...
JamieEi 15y ago
It appears to be multiple patents, virtually all obvious and with significant prior art: • 5,579,517: Common name space for long and short filenames • 5,758,352: Common name space for long and short filenames • 6,621,746: Monitoring entropic conditions of a flash memory device as an indicator for invoking erasure operations • 6,826,762: Radio interface layer in a cell phone with a set of APIs having a hardware-independent proxy layer and a hardware-specific driver layer • 6,909,910: Method and system for managing changes to a contact database • 7,644,376: Flexible architecture for notifying applications of state changes • 5,664,133: Context sensitive menu system/menu behavior • 6,578,054: Method and system for supporting off-line mode of operation and synchronization using resource state information • 6,370,566: Generating meeting requests and group scheduling from a mobile device • Give people easy ways to navigate through information provided by their device apps via a separate control window with tabs; • Enable display of a webpage’s content before the background image is received, allowing users to interact with the page faster; • Allow apps to superimpose download status on top of the downloading content; • Permit users to easily select text in a document and adjust that selection; and • Provide users the ability to annotate text without changing the underlying document. http://arstechnica.com/microsoft/news/2010/10/microsoft-sues-motorola-citing-android-patent-infringement.ars http://arstechnica.com/microsoft/news/2010/10/microsoft-sues... http://blogs.technet.com/b/microsoft_on_the_issues/archive/2011/03/21/android-patent-infringement-licensing-is-the-solution.aspx http://blogs.technet.com/b/microsoft_on_the_issues/archive/2... I really hate software patents and the trolls that abuse them.
- kenjackson 15y ago
  Unfortunately the obviousness test at this point is moot. Once the PTO signs off on it, overturning obviousness is very difficult. The prior art is a better way to go, especially if it is obvious the same technology as the patent. BTW, what is the prior art on the two clearest ones (from the title -- which obviously doesn't mean the claims line up, but I suspect they do): Meeting requets and group scheduling on a mobile device prior to 1997? Common namespace for long and short filenames prior to 1993?
- ditojim 15y ago
  i hate that these bullet points are patent-able. i dont think the system was ever intended for this sort of granularity. we should protect big ideas, not functions necessary to run any modern mobile operating system.
  - JoeAltmaier 15y ago
    I understood that patents are for the opposite: not to patent ideas, but a particular invention.

Pretty crap what MS is doing. The $10/15 per handset seems so high, what exactly is this patent that they're referring to?

by JonoW 15y ago

Pretty crap what MS is doing. The $10/15 per handset seems so high, what exactly is this patent that they're referring to?

bluedanieru 15y ago

With the current state of patents, probably 'use electricity to do stuff' or something similar.

Create 15y ago
You are about to destroy the myth of Edison & Co...

JamieEi 15y ago

It appears to be multiple patents, virtually all obvious and with significant prior art: • 5,579,517: Common name space for long and short filenames • 5,758,352: Common name space for long and short filenames • 6,621,746: Monitoring entropic conditions of a flash memory device as an indicator for invoking erasure operations • 6,826,762: Radio interface layer in a cell phone with a set of APIs having a hardware-independent proxy layer and a hardware-specific driver layer • 6,909,910: Method and system for managing changes to a contact database • 7,644,376: Flexible architecture for notifying applications of state changes • 5,664,133: Context sensitive menu system/menu behavior • 6,578,054: Method and system for supporting off-line mode of operation and synchronization using resource state information • 6,370,566: Generating meeting requests and group scheduling from a mobile device • Give people easy ways to navigate through information provided by their device apps via a separate control window with tabs; • Enable display of a webpage’s content before the background image is received, allowing users to interact with the page faster; • Allow apps to superimpose download status on top of the downloading content; • Permit users to easily select text in a document and adjust that selection; and • Provide users the ability to annotate text without changing the underlying document. http://arstechnica.com/microsoft/news/2010/10/microsoft-sues-motorola-citing-android-patent-infringement.ars http://arstechnica.com/microsoft/news/2010/10/microsoft-sues... http://blogs.technet.com/b/microsoft_on_the_issues/archive/2011/03/21/android-patent-infringement-licensing-is-the-solution.aspx http://blogs.technet.com/b/microsoft_on_the_issues/archive/2... I really hate software patents and the trolls that abuse them.

kenjackson 15y ago
Unfortunately the obviousness test at this point is moot. Once the PTO signs off on it, overturning obviousness is very difficult. The prior art is a better way to go, especially if it is obvious the same technology as the patent. BTW, what is the prior art on the two clearest ones (from the title -- which obviously doesn't mean the claims line up, but I suspect they do): Meeting requets and group scheduling on a mobile device prior to 1997? Common namespace for long and short filenames prior to 1993?
ditojim 15y ago
i hate that these bullet points are patent-able. i dont think the system was ever intended for this sort of granularity. we should protect big ideas, not functions necessary to run any modern mobile operating system.
- JoeAltmaier 15y ago
  I understood that patents are for the opposite: not to patent ideas, but a particular invention.