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The recommendation for a commercial panel which avoids built smart TV functions is one I'm taking seriously. We have an Apple TV connected and use nothing else.

The recommendation for a commercial panel which avoids built smart TV functions is one I'm taking seriously. We have an Apple TV connected and use nothing else. Does anyone have experience or recommendations? Here is a link to NEC's commercial displays https://www.sharpnecdisplays.us/products/displays#2 https://www.sharpnecdisplays.us/products/displays#2

an_opabinia 5y ago
I don't know. If you don't connect the TV to the Internet, really, what is it going to do.
- smbv 5y ago
  Perhaps it'll hop onto someone else's WiFi. https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/05/amazon-devices-will-soon-automatically-share-your-internet-with-neighbors/ https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/05/amazon-devices-will-...
  - SilverRed 5y ago
    Or include its own built in 4/5g modem.
- swader999 5y ago
  Connect your media pc to it and fully control your tv software.
- Sebb767 5y ago
  A nag every 5 minutes to do so, lags and slow startup time due to all the stuff running in the background and, to top it off, horrible settings menus as the actual picture is not the main focus.
  - crooked-v 5y ago
    My Vizio M55-E0 has a noticeably (much, much) slower UI if it's not connected to the internet, though it's probably just poor design rather than an intentional thing. Definitely never buying another Vizio, though.
geofft 5y ago
The commercial displays are also awfully expensive. https://frame.work/blog/in-defense-of-dumb-tvs https://frame.work/blog/in-defense-of-dumb-tvs was posted here recently (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26273169 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26273169) and concluded that Sceptre, an inexpensive brand sold at Wal-Mart, was worth a shot.
- curtis3389 5y ago
  I bought a Sceptre based on a HN discussion a few months ago. Happy with it so far. It's just a regular TV.
  - karaterobot 5y ago
    I bet we bought the exact same panel, since I bought mine based on the same HN discussion. The Sceptre 65" something something? Very happy with it so far.
easton 5y ago
Find the hospitality version of whatever you want from CDW (Samsung and LG do a lot of them, idk about Sony). They are designed for hotels and hospitals, and have the same picture quality but no smart stuff. An example from Samsung: https://www.cdw.com/product/samsung-678u-series-55-4k-uhd-led-hospitality-tv/5364487 https://www.cdw.com/product/samsung-678u-series-55-4k-uhd-le...
- tomcam 5y ago
  Well that is a super helpful pro tip! You have just opened up a new world for me. Thank you.
  - MonaroVXR 5y ago
    These are cheaper? https://www.sceptre.com/TV/4K-UHD-TV-category1category73.html?sort=tbt.parent_pdtype&order=DESC https://www.sceptre.com/TV/4K-UHD-TV-category1category73.htm...
    - tomcam 5y ago
      Nice!
- Multicomp 5y ago
  We use NEC E and P series TVs for digital menuboards in amusement parks.
c0nfused 5y ago
I am planning to replace my existing tv from one of dell's conference room line once it finally quits on me. https://www.dell.com/en-us/work/shop/dell-55-4k-conference-room-monitor-c5519q/apd/210-arev/monitors-monitor-accessories https://www.dell.com/en-us/work/shop/dell-55-4k-conference-r... The down ide is that they are up 25% in cost over 2019 but
- crooked-v 5y ago
  Overall cost trends for anything electronic are going to be pretty weird this year given chip shortages.
croutonwagon 5y ago
Yeah....BUT those panels are designed for, more or less, static images in well lit rooms. Things like contrast ratio, how well it does dark colors in a dark room or fast intesity refreshing (like 60Hz "fast") may be questionable. It probably also expects super consistent and clean power...some houses dont have that. Sure you could make it a giant Dakboard with a giant static image and not really worry about burn in for years. Ultimately. I went with a cheap panel from say costco and a roku on a separate vlan (so my overkill is a network that can do vlan segmentation). Ultimately the roku TV's can scan themselves to death and report that they are on a network with other roku TV's all they want. Or you could just get a cheap-o smart TV and hook up the appleTV (cost came into play for me). I do have some LG smart TV's, one died within 3 years already...Meanwhile my Samsung 55" Plasma from 2008 had taking a direct lightning strike that took out the others and keeps on ticking. (and resulted in the TCL roku and LG tvs being installed). So all of that is to say. I just go cheap panel that i dont mind replacing. And just keep them isolated entirely.
ltbarcly3 5y ago
I have an LG 'smart' TV but I just don't use any of the smart functionality. I don't have any problem with it, it just defaults to the HDMI my GoogleTV is on. Sometimes the dog will bump the TV controller (which sits untouched on the coffee table) and it will pop up a menu for a second, but it goes away by itself. I haven't interacted with the TV itself other than to change the picture mode to nighttime in about a year. So why go to the trouble of not having the smart menu stuff rather than just not using it?

an_opabinia 5y ago

I don't know. If you don't connect the TV to the Internet, really, what is it going to do.

smbv 5y ago
Perhaps it'll hop onto someone else's WiFi. https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/05/amazon-devices-will-soon-automatically-share-your-internet-with-neighbors/ https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/05/amazon-devices-will-...
- SilverRed 5y ago
  Or include its own built in 4/5g modem.
swader999 5y ago
Connect your media pc to it and fully control your tv software.
Sebb767 5y ago
A nag every 5 minutes to do so, lags and slow startup time due to all the stuff running in the background and, to top it off, horrible settings menus as the actual picture is not the main focus.
- crooked-v 5y ago
  My Vizio M55-E0 has a noticeably (much, much) slower UI if it's not connected to the internet, though it's probably just poor design rather than an intentional thing. Definitely never buying another Vizio, though.

geofft 5y ago

The commercial displays are also awfully expensive. https://frame.work/blog/in-defense-of-dumb-tvs https://frame.work/blog/in-defense-of-dumb-tvs was posted here recently (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26273169 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26273169) and concluded that Sceptre, an inexpensive brand sold at Wal-Mart, was worth a shot.

curtis3389 5y ago
I bought a Sceptre based on a HN discussion a few months ago. Happy with it so far. It's just a regular TV.
- karaterobot 5y ago
  I bet we bought the exact same panel, since I bought mine based on the same HN discussion. The Sceptre 65" something something? Very happy with it so far.

easton 5y ago

Find the hospitality version of whatever you want from CDW (Samsung and LG do a lot of them, idk about Sony). They are designed for hotels and hospitals, and have the same picture quality but no smart stuff. An example from Samsung: https://www.cdw.com/product/samsung-678u-series-55-4k-uhd-led-hospitality-tv/5364487 https://www.cdw.com/product/samsung-678u-series-55-4k-uhd-le...

tomcam 5y ago
Well that is a super helpful pro tip! You have just opened up a new world for me. Thank you.
- MonaroVXR 5y ago
  These are cheaper? https://www.sceptre.com/TV/4K-UHD-TV-category1category73.html?sort=tbt.parent_pdtype&order=DESC https://www.sceptre.com/TV/4K-UHD-TV-category1category73.htm...
  - tomcam 5y ago
    Nice!
Multicomp 5y ago
We use NEC E and P series TVs for digital menuboards in amusement parks.

c0nfused 5y ago

I am planning to replace my existing tv from one of dell's conference room line once it finally quits on me. https://www.dell.com/en-us/work/shop/dell-55-4k-conference-room-monitor-c5519q/apd/210-arev/monitors-monitor-accessories https://www.dell.com/en-us/work/shop/dell-55-4k-conference-r... The down ide is that they are up 25% in cost over 2019 but

crooked-v 5y ago
Overall cost trends for anything electronic are going to be pretty weird this year given chip shortages.

croutonwagon 5y ago

Yeah....BUT those panels are designed for, more or less, static images in well lit rooms. Things like contrast ratio, how well it does dark colors in a dark room or fast intesity refreshing (like 60Hz "fast") may be questionable. It probably also expects super consistent and clean power...some houses dont have that. Sure you could make it a giant Dakboard with a giant static image and not really worry about burn in for years. Ultimately. I went with a cheap panel from say costco and a roku on a separate vlan (so my overkill is a network that can do vlan segmentation). Ultimately the roku TV's can scan themselves to death and report that they are on a network with other roku TV's all they want. Or you could just get a cheap-o smart TV and hook up the appleTV (cost came into play for me). I do have some LG smart TV's, one died within 3 years already...Meanwhile my Samsung 55" Plasma from 2008 had taking a direct lightning strike that took out the others and keeps on ticking. (and resulted in the TCL roku and LG tvs being installed). So all of that is to say. I just go cheap panel that i dont mind replacing. And just keep them isolated entirely.

ltbarcly3 5y ago

I have an LG 'smart' TV but I just don't use any of the smart functionality. I don't have any problem with it, it just defaults to the HDMI my GoogleTV is on. Sometimes the dog will bump the TV controller (which sits untouched on the coffee table) and it will pop up a menu for a second, but it goes away by itself. I haven't interacted with the TV itself other than to change the picture mode to nighttime in about a year. So why go to the trouble of not having the smart menu stuff rather than just not using it?