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Like others have said - be careful with this option - there are a LOT Of examples in the Google Fi forums about people doing a chargeback with Google because of

by rkalla 5y ago

Like others have said - be careful with this option - there are a LOT Of examples in the Google Fi forums about people doing a chargeback with Google because of charges they felt were fair or fraudulent via Google Fi, and next thing they know their Google Account (Photos, Docs, Email, etc.) is disabled. I would watch the same thing with Amazon (Music, Alexa, Photos, AWS, etc.)

menzoic 5y ago
Backup everything elsewhere regularly https://zapier.com/apps/dropbox/integrations/google-drive https://zapier.com/apps/dropbox/integrations/google-drive
- toomuchtodo 5y ago
  You’d want to use frequent Google Takeout for backups of all of your data.
dsomers 5y ago
All the more reason to not use these companies for anything that’s even moderately important.
- ryandrake 5y ago
  Exactly. If you are at the point where your only recourse is chargeback, then you are at a bridge-burning moment. The company has treated you so badly that you’re willing to light the relationship on fire. Why on earth would you want to continue being a customer of that company? I’ve done a few chargebacks in my life and they were all against scum-of-the-earth companies I would never do business with again.
nigerian1981 5y ago
That’s a good point. I hadn’t really considered that.
FpUser 5y ago
This is why I do not use gmail or any other online services from any vendor which might restrict me from doing things I do. My online dependency is limited to Netflix and Amazon. Amazon is easily replaceable. As for Netflix - there are other services and as an alternatives I'll just read more books. I might miss Google Gearch and Youtube but from my experiments those can be used in anonymous mode. For people who earn money on Youtube it is of course very different.
- heavyset_go 5y ago
  A couple of years ago I migrated away from Gmail for just this reason. Before I did that, my life could have become very difficult if Google decided to deem me as a persona non grata, and I'd have little to no recourse.
malka 5y ago
That's one of the reasons I degoogled my life. I want to be able to tell Google to go screw itself in such events
josephcsible 5y ago
One thing I've always wondered: since credit cards generally have relatively pro-consumer policies, why didn't they just take the next logical step and write "retaliation for chargebacks isn't allowed" into their merchant agreements?
- Ekaros 5y ago
  Because the companies might just stop accepting them or actually start fighting. Also the current state is good for both merchants and credit cards. Issues are quietly solved and problems go away, permanently.

by rkalla 5y ago

menzoic 5y ago

Backup everything elsewhere regularly https://zapier.com/apps/dropbox/integrations/google-drive https://zapier.com/apps/dropbox/integrations/google-drive

toomuchtodo 5y ago
You’d want to use frequent Google Takeout for backups of all of your data.

dsomers 5y ago

All the more reason to not use these companies for anything that’s even moderately important.

ryandrake 5y ago
Exactly. If you are at the point where your only recourse is chargeback, then you are at a bridge-burning moment. The company has treated you so badly that you’re willing to light the relationship on fire. Why on earth would you want to continue being a customer of that company? I’ve done a few chargebacks in my life and they were all against scum-of-the-earth companies I would never do business with again.

nigerian1981 5y ago

That’s a good point. I hadn’t really considered that.

FpUser 5y ago

This is why I do not use gmail or any other online services from any vendor which might restrict me from doing things I do. My online dependency is limited to Netflix and Amazon. Amazon is easily replaceable. As for Netflix - there are other services and as an alternatives I'll just read more books. I might miss Google Gearch and Youtube but from my experiments those can be used in anonymous mode. For people who earn money on Youtube it is of course very different.

heavyset_go 5y ago
A couple of years ago I migrated away from Gmail for just this reason. Before I did that, my life could have become very difficult if Google decided to deem me as a persona non grata, and I'd have little to no recourse.

malka 5y ago

That's one of the reasons I degoogled my life. I want to be able to tell Google to go screw itself in such events

josephcsible 5y ago

One thing I've always wondered: since credit cards generally have relatively pro-consumer policies, why didn't they just take the next logical step and write "retaliation for chargebacks isn't allowed" into their merchant agreements?

Ekaros 5y ago
Because the companies might just stop accepting them or actually start fighting. Also the current state is good for both merchants and credit cards. Issues are quietly solved and problems go away, permanently.