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Will the Hall of Shame also use Airtable? Isn't the ad-based business model of this unicorn itself a dark pattern? Or aren't we yet at that stage, and consider
by rapnie 5y ago
Will the Hall of Shame also use Airtable?
Isn't the ad-based business model of this unicorn itself a dark pattern? Or aren't we yet at that stage, and consider "Read the legalese of the privacy policy, and either continue or move on" good enough?
There's opportunity to use open-source, self-hostable Airtable alternative, such as NocoDB [0] or Baserow [1].
As for darkpatterns.org itself. On the Hall of Shame page there are 5 trackers, and on the landing page (due to YouTube embedding) there are 8. But the site lacks a Privacy Policy AFAICS explaining this. Arguably a site about Dark Patterns could be a shining example of not using them, and I think it could well be tracker-free without major concessions.
[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27303783 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27303783
[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26448985 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26448985
- harrybr 5y agoHi, I'm the author of the website you are referring to. The website is built using webflow, which is a very reasonable choice for someone who wants to run a website who is not also a developer. Embedding or linking to content on third party services like youtube, twitter or airtable is not an unusual thing to do. The website has no revenue model, and has been provided free of charge since 2010. Though it's not perfect - it would after all be preferable to entirely javascript-free - it's had a tiny net positive effect on the web. You suggested using NocoDB instead of airtable. NocoDB was launched 3 days ago.
- rapnie 5y agoYes, they are mere suggestions. You are doing great with the site, attracting attention to Dark Patterns in general and now with HoS to the specific parties involved. Highly appreciate the effort, thanks.
- stareatgoats 5y agoThe parent commenter was out of line with their insinuations IMO. Thanks for your efforts towards keeping the web a little bit cleaner.