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Definitely enjoy it more. Brewed coffee started tasting like stewed coffee or something, the americanos just have a 'cleaner' hit...i don't know. The weird th

• eyelidlessness 5y ago
  Pourover is more like espresso too. Almost the same mechanism, but espresso also uses pressure. And even though snobs will disagree, french press will be closer in flavor but “muddier”. Drip is pretty much the worst because it starts reheating your already perfectly good coffee before it’s even done. Welcome to the snobbery! I went from “I refuse to order a coffee with more than two words” to super opinionated and picky, and now my rules are just don’t be insufferable and accept when my preferences aren’t reasonably available.
  • Godel_unicode 5y ago
    This is all almost totally incorrect. French press "muddiness" is not invariant but rather a function of filter size and type. It's the equivalent of steak doneness, use the appropriate equipment for the result you want. Espresso is fundamentally different than pour-over. Pour-over is only using atmospheric pressure and espresso is about only not using atmospheric pressure. Pour-over is closer to drip than espresso. Drip coffee is actually just pour-over coffee made with a machine, and using a warming burner is not required. How good your coffee is depends not at all on the method used, and anyone telling you it does is just encoding their preference. Goodness of coffee is a combination of acidity, sweetness, bitterness, ratio of water to non-water compounds, time spent, and enjoyment of the experimentation. This combination is achieved by varying grind size, water temperature, bean roast, contact time, and experimenter time.
    • eyelidlessness 5y ago
      > French press "muddiness" is not invariant but rather a function of filter size and type. It's the equivalent of steak doneness, use the appropriate equipment for the result you want. I don’t think this contradicts anything I said. > Espresso is fundamentally different than pour-over. Pour-over is only using atmospheric pressure and espresso is about only not using atmospheric pressure. To clarify, I meant that the distinction is that the water flows through the coffee in drip/pour over by gravity (as you said, atmospheric pressure) but with espresso it flows through with applied pressure. > Pour-over is closer to drip than espresso. > Drip coffee is actually just pour-over coffee made with a machine, and using a warming burner is not required. This is pretty much what I was saying, with the distinction being that most people making drip do have a burner and that’s what makes their coffee taste worse. > How good your coffee is depends not at all on the method used, and anyone telling you it does is just encoding their preference. This is my first major point of disagreement besides how you chose to interpret things. For most people, the method their coffee is made makes a difference because people have shit to do, even baristas making it for them. A half assed French press will taste dramatically different than a half assed Mr Coffee will taste dramatically different than a push button espresso machine. > Goodness of coffee is a combination of acidity, sweetness, bitterness, ratio of water to non-water compounds, time spent, and enjoyment of the experimentation. This combination is achieved by varying grind size, water temperature, bean roast, contact time, and experimenter time. And even then, it’s a matter of preference, and might vary on occasion. And even then, you might encounter someone telling you your particular taste is wrong even if it delights you. Such as when I had the displeasure of ordering my absolute favorite latte I’ve ever had—I ordered a delicious natural process, the barista insisted I change my order twice and complained the whole time he was making it because the milk would ruin it, but I loved it. I’m not trying to be a jerk, but there’s a reason people find coffee snobs insufferable.
      • eyelidlessness 5y ago
        Oh also, I’ve had people insist I’m wrong to prefer homogenized milk, or whole milk over cream, or milk at all, depending on the particular varietal, origin, roast, grind, temperature.
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  • sizzle 5y ago
    I use an Aeropress every morning and it does the job, can tell the difference between the aeropress and store bought drinks.