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It's great that it's working out for you. I have a pretty annoying sleep disorder called delayed sleep phase disorder (DSPD), diagnosed by multiple clinicians.

It's great that it's working out for you. I have a pretty annoying sleep disorder called delayed sleep phase disorder (DSPD), diagnosed by multiple clinicians. I have impeccable sleep hygiene, quit caffeine entirely, tried lots of OTC and prescription sleep drugs, light therapy, every kind of sleep supplement you've heard of and probably a few you haven't, and I still revert to going to bed around 5am and waking between noon and 1:30pm. In the times I maintained a "normal" early-bird schedule, I actually consistently fall into a deep depression. Our circadian rhythms are pretty powerful regulators -- not just of sleep, but of our hormones and regularity (in the poop sense) too. So misalignment wreaks havoc on our bodies in various ways, even if we're able to get enough sleep. Anyway for some people they're more flexible and trainable than others. I'm genuinely happy for your case, but I mainly wanted to point out that not everyone will have the same results.

Swizec 5y ago
> Anyway for some people they're more flexible and trainable than others. I'm genuinely happy for your case, but I mainly wanted to point out that not everyone will have the same results. I wonder if this is something I unlocked during my digital nomad days. There was a period of 2 years in my mid 20’s when I moved from Europe to SFBA and back every 2 or 3 months. 9 hours difference each way, just enough to really screw up your rhythms.
- midasuni 5y ago
  What visa did you use in that time?
- colechristensen 5y ago
  It is also something that changes as you age
rossnordby 5y ago
Out of curiosity, did you have any luck at all with the glasses-style light therapy devices like the Luminette? I was having limited success with other forms of light therapy (and the rest of the laundry list of interventions), and some recommendations from an experimental non24 protocol (https://circadiaware.github.io/VLiDACMel-entrainment-therapy-non24/SleepNon24VLiDACMel.html https://circadiaware.github.io/VLiDACMel-entrainment-therapy...) lead me to finally try the glasses type and it's oddly effective, so far. I'm waking up around 10:30 AM without alarms and without sliding, which has... literally never happened before. I'm just hoping it won't regress to the mean after another month.
- Freeboots 5y ago
  I've got n24, the glasses work temporarily for me but i cant see them as a long term solution as the entrainment doesnt last. Dedicating 3-4 hours first thing every morning to staring at a painful light while getting nothing else done (no driving, no computer, no active work or exercise, no going out in public) simply defeats the purpose. ed: I should caveat that some people will no doubt be able to do some kind of productive activity while wearing them, I've not yet been able to.

Swizec 5y ago

> Anyway for some people they're more flexible and trainable than others. I'm genuinely happy for your case, but I mainly wanted to point out that not everyone will have the same results. I wonder if this is something I unlocked during my digital nomad days. There was a period of 2 years in my mid 20’s when I moved from Europe to SFBA and back every 2 or 3 months. 9 hours difference each way, just enough to really screw up your rhythms.

midasuni 5y ago
What visa did you use in that time?
colechristensen 5y ago
It is also something that changes as you age

rossnordby 5y ago

Out of curiosity, did you have any luck at all with the glasses-style light therapy devices like the Luminette? I was having limited success with other forms of light therapy (and the rest of the laundry list of interventions), and some recommendations from an experimental non24 protocol (https://circadiaware.github.io/VLiDACMel-entrainment-therapy-non24/SleepNon24VLiDACMel.html https://circadiaware.github.io/VLiDACMel-entrainment-therapy...) lead me to finally try the glasses type and it's oddly effective, so far. I'm waking up around 10:30 AM without alarms and without sliding, which has... literally never happened before. I'm just hoping it won't regress to the mean after another month.

Freeboots 5y ago
I've got n24, the glasses work temporarily for me but i cant see them as a long term solution as the entrainment doesnt last. Dedicating 3-4 hours first thing every morning to staring at a painful light while getting nothing else done (no driving, no computer, no active work or exercise, no going out in public) simply defeats the purpose. ed: I should caveat that some people will no doubt be able to do some kind of productive activity while wearing them, I've not yet been able to.