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Sure but there’s a correlation. I don’t know if it’s causative though. The socially awkward kids getting bullied at public school are those that are most likely

Sure but there’s a correlation. I don’t know if it’s causative though. The socially awkward kids getting bullied at public school are those that are most likely to get pulled out and homeschooled.

giantg2 5y ago
Is there a correlation? The homeschooled kids I knew of weren't pulled out for bullies or any other issues.
- spoonjim 5y ago
  Not necessarily bullies but who is a parent likely to pull out of school (ignoring the parents doing it for selfish reasons like religious extremism)? The kid who hates school and has no friends and sulks when it’s time to go or the kid who can’t wait to go and has tons of friends and is involved in school activities?
  - throw14082020 5y ago
    If someone is doing so badly is school (they get expelled or they cannot handle school, or have special needs and the parents cannot find/ be bothered to send them to a school further away), they may get home-schooled. Yes, so there might be this cause and effect, but this is not a correlation, i.e. we haven't seen data, they may well be more well rounded individuals being home-schooled because there are more parents who decided home schooling as a way to enhance education.
  - giantg2 5y ago
    The kids I knew weren't pulled out of school. They were homeschooled the whole time. It seemed to me that the reasons where mostly quality of education in the public school was poor and cost of private school was too high, as well as a little religious benefit maybe.
lupire 5y ago
Also homeschooling isn't mainstream and is largely populated by parents with extremist religious beliefs that harm their children's development and who choose to homeschool because they are afraid of their child escaping into non coercive social relationships.
- notsureaboutpg 5y ago
  These are feelings, not facts. Homeschooling is not largely populated by people with "extremist" beliefs. Such people are too low in number to be largely populating anything. 5 million parents in the US were officially homeschooling their kids as of the latest Pulse survey (done during COVID pandemic to see changes in families). [1] There are about 56 million students attending school in the US right now [2] So about 10% of kids are homeschooled. That's not mainstream but it's not such a small minority to be discounted, nor is it small enough to be largely populated by extremists. 1 https://hslda.org/post/census-data-shows-phenomenal-homeschool-growth https://hslda.org/post/census-data-shows-phenomenal-homescho... 2 https://nces.ed.gov/fastfacts/display.asp?id=372 https://nces.ed.gov/fastfacts/display.asp?id=372
- nate_meurer 5y ago
  This isn't true, and it hasn't been true in a long time. I've been involved in the homeschool community in Colorado for a decade, and we are, as far as I can tell, representative of the larger population with regard to religion, politics, and lifestyle, and even race to a good extent. In terms of politics, I'd actually say most of us skew liberal. The past few years we've seen an influx of queer kids, who are either obviously not gender- or sexually conformant, or questioning along those lines. Turns out, homeschool communities can offer an ideal refuge for queer kids, compared to the sheer unrelenting brutality of conventional school. Depends on the particular community of course, but ours is good for that.
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giantg2 5y ago

Is there a correlation? The homeschooled kids I knew of weren't pulled out for bullies or any other issues.

spoonjim 5y ago
Not necessarily bullies but who is a parent likely to pull out of school (ignoring the parents doing it for selfish reasons like religious extremism)? The kid who hates school and has no friends and sulks when it’s time to go or the kid who can’t wait to go and has tons of friends and is involved in school activities?
- throw14082020 5y ago
  If someone is doing so badly is school (they get expelled or they cannot handle school, or have special needs and the parents cannot find/ be bothered to send them to a school further away), they may get home-schooled. Yes, so there might be this cause and effect, but this is not a correlation, i.e. we haven't seen data, they may well be more well rounded individuals being home-schooled because there are more parents who decided home schooling as a way to enhance education.
- giantg2 5y ago
  The kids I knew weren't pulled out of school. They were homeschooled the whole time. It seemed to me that the reasons where mostly quality of education in the public school was poor and cost of private school was too high, as well as a little religious benefit maybe.

lupire 5y ago

Also homeschooling isn't mainstream and is largely populated by parents with extremist religious beliefs that harm their children's development and who choose to homeschool because they are afraid of their child escaping into non coercive social relationships.

notsureaboutpg 5y ago
These are feelings, not facts. Homeschooling is not largely populated by people with "extremist" beliefs. Such people are too low in number to be largely populating anything. 5 million parents in the US were officially homeschooling their kids as of the latest Pulse survey (done during COVID pandemic to see changes in families). [1] There are about 56 million students attending school in the US right now [2] So about 10% of kids are homeschooled. That's not mainstream but it's not such a small minority to be discounted, nor is it small enough to be largely populated by extremists. 1 https://hslda.org/post/census-data-shows-phenomenal-homeschool-growth https://hslda.org/post/census-data-shows-phenomenal-homescho... 2 https://nces.ed.gov/fastfacts/display.asp?id=372 https://nces.ed.gov/fastfacts/display.asp?id=372
nate_meurer 5y ago
This isn't true, and it hasn't been true in a long time. I've been involved in the homeschool community in Colorado for a decade, and we are, as far as I can tell, representative of the larger population with regard to religion, politics, and lifestyle, and even race to a good extent. In terms of politics, I'd actually say most of us skew liberal. The past few years we've seen an influx of queer kids, who are either obviously not gender- or sexually conformant, or questioning along those lines. Turns out, homeschool communities can offer an ideal refuge for queer kids, compared to the sheer unrelenting brutality of conventional school. Depends on the particular community of course, but ours is good for that.

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