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From a teachers perspective, the problem with cheating is that it doesn't help me help you. Especially if you are cheating from the get-go, it can take a while

From a teachers perspective, the problem with cheating is that it doesn't help me help you. Especially if you are cheating from the get-go, it can take a while before I notice it and by then it might be too late. Tests are supposed to be assessments, not some sort of trial-by-question or student ranking system. (Whether a particular teacher/school treats them that way is another discussion). If your assessment shows that you know 20% of the material, then I can help you learn (at least some of) the other 80%. However, if you know 20% of the material but cheat your way to an 80% on the assessment, then I will try to help you with the last 20% assuming you know the 60% of the content that you cheated on. At best that will end up with you knowing 40% of the material, but more likely you won't be able to learn much more than the 20% you already knew because I won't have the information to approach the content correctly for you. And in the next unit, that missing 80% will compound and you'll learn even less. (I teach Computer Science... so imagine trying to learn for-loops if you don't really know how to declare/initialize variables) So, cheating really only hurts yourself. You will be one of those people that doesn't get the job, or gets fired. But you could have been someone that was successful at the job if you had been honest on the assessments and got the help you needed when you needed it. (Similarly, I think guessing on assessments is a bad idea, because it can hide misunderstandings from the teacher and the student)

ffffwe3rq352y3 5y ago
Thanks for the thoughtful answer! First off I really think CSC is the worst when talking about cheating. For some reason my school thinks looking at stackoverflow or talking to other students about the assignment while either of you have your project open is cheating. I love CSC so all the classes I've taken have mostly been below me or about my level. These rules really annoyed me because because watching videos (Cheating according to my school) or looking at stack overflow is one of the best ways to learn. I'm now in the CSC club and I constantly see people asking the dumbest questions (Even just syntax confusion!) because they don't understand how helpful the internet is for learning! They have been told that stackoverflow is unreliable and should never be used. I feel like this really hampers their ability to learn... > Similarly, I think guessing on assessments is a bad idea, because it can hide misunderstandings from the teacher and the student) I think your missing something here. Your a CSC teacher so you know that grades are so so important for CSC students. For example, I have to maintain a 3.93 GPA if I want to even be considered to go to my school of choice. This means guessing on assignments is 100% necessary if I don't know the answer. There have been many times on assignments that I have thought of a cool or different way of doing something but have immediately stopped because I don't get more points for doing something slightly more efficiently but get massive points off for getting it less efficient. Not worth the risk! If I don't fight for every single point I am digging my own grave towards a 3.9. I obviously have no idea what kind of teacher you are but my current ones don't seem to understand the gravity of their grades. They throw stuff on tests that isn't relevant or just miss grade assignments (And forget to give me points back after I pointed it out) like it isn't a big deal. These small mistakes are the difference between getting into the collage I want or not! The completely control a big part of my life but don't seem to know! I duno. I feel like my teachers mostly don't really care about education and mostly about making the test as difficult as they can get away with. Getting a 4.0 is so mentally taxing I feel utterly defeated with the entire system. Sorry for the long rant!

ffffwe3rq352y3 5y ago

Thanks for the thoughtful answer! First off I really think CSC is the worst when talking about cheating. For some reason my school thinks looking at stackoverflow or talking to other students about the assignment while either of you have your project open is cheating. I love CSC so all the classes I've taken have mostly been below me or about my level. These rules really annoyed me because because watching videos (Cheating according to my school) or looking at stack overflow is one of the best ways to learn. I'm now in the CSC club and I constantly see people asking the dumbest questions (Even just syntax confusion!) because they don't understand how helpful the internet is for learning! They have been told that stackoverflow is unreliable and should never be used. I feel like this really hampers their ability to learn... > Similarly, I think guessing on assessments is a bad idea, because it can hide misunderstandings from the teacher and the student) I think your missing something here. Your a CSC teacher so you know that grades are so so important for CSC students. For example, I have to maintain a 3.93 GPA if I want to even be considered to go to my school of choice. This means guessing on assignments is 100% necessary if I don't know the answer. There have been many times on assignments that I have thought of a cool or different way of doing something but have immediately stopped because I don't get more points for doing something slightly more efficiently but get massive points off for getting it less efficient. Not worth the risk! If I don't fight for every single point I am digging my own grave towards a 3.9. I obviously have no idea what kind of teacher you are but my current ones don't seem to understand the gravity of their grades. They throw stuff on tests that isn't relevant or just miss grade assignments (And forget to give me points back after I pointed it out) like it isn't a big deal. These small mistakes are the difference between getting into the collage I want or not! The completely control a big part of my life but don't seem to know! I duno. I feel like my teachers mostly don't really care about education and mostly about making the test as difficult as they can get away with. Getting a 4.0 is so mentally taxing I feel utterly defeated with the entire system. Sorry for the long rant!