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How is Google ranking 10/10 on protecting user privacy if they considered people choosing to shut off their location tracking as a crisis worthy of pressuring O

How is Google ranking 10/10 on protecting user privacy if they considered people choosing to shut off their location tracking as a crisis worthy of pressuring OEMs to make it harder? The thing Googlers and Xooglers alike seem absolutely unable to grapple with is that Google itself is a major privacy threat, and we don't want Google itself to have this information. The fox is guarding the henhouse, and all the fox is doing is telling us it's protecting it from other foxes.

joshuamorton 5y ago
Different people have different privacy threat models. Gp even mentioned as much.
- ocdtrekkie 5y ago
  Again, that you want, good for you. But when Google let people choose, and people choose in a way they didn't like, they immediately reversed course, pressured OEMs to make that user choice harder.
  - joshuamorton 5y ago
    That's fine, but your comment makes no sense in response to someone who explicitly talked about their personal threat model. Of course they can grasp that other people have different ones, that's why they scoped the comment to their own.
    - ocdtrekkie 5y ago
      Fair, though the comment above his was definitely asking in a more general sense.
      - Twisell 5y ago
        I think it was pretty relevant nonetheless because by tweaking the UI and UX Google is actively harming their users abilities to implement the threat model they have chosen (no matter which one they choose).
        joshuamorton 5y ago
        Whether or not this is true, it's far from the original question. OP's question (in my reading) presupposes permission to monitor healthcare data. If you believe the xoogler and googler responses in this thread, Google's data stewardship will be superior to that of other people doing healthcare ERP stuff. So the only question is if Google can do something without ads tracking, and the answer is yes. Gmail and Docs and Drive isn't used for ads purposes (granted gmail used to be, but even then it was siloed and only used within gmail). It's just a freemium model.

joshuamorton 5y ago

Different people have different privacy threat models. Gp even mentioned as much.

ocdtrekkie 5y ago
Again, that you want, good for you. But when Google let people choose, and people choose in a way they didn't like, they immediately reversed course, pressured OEMs to make that user choice harder.
- joshuamorton 5y ago
  That's fine, but your comment makes no sense in response to someone who explicitly talked about their personal threat model. Of course they can grasp that other people have different ones, that's why they scoped the comment to their own.
  - ocdtrekkie 5y ago
    Fair, though the comment above his was definitely asking in a more general sense.
    - Twisell 5y ago
      I think it was pretty relevant nonetheless because by tweaking the UI and UX Google is actively harming their users abilities to implement the threat model they have chosen (no matter which one they choose).
      - joshuamorton 5y ago
        Whether or not this is true, it's far from the original question. OP's question (in my reading) presupposes permission to monitor healthcare data. If you believe the xoogler and googler responses in this thread, Google's data stewardship will be superior to that of other people doing healthcare ERP stuff. So the only question is if Google can do something without ads tracking, and the answer is yes. Gmail and Docs and Drive isn't used for ads purposes (granted gmail used to be, but even then it was siloed and only used within gmail). It's just a freemium model.