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To me the sound of those big bikes is a form of terrorism. They rise my blood pressure, increase stress levels and make me hate. Try living somewhere where ever

by hamoid 5y ago

To me the sound of those big bikes is a form of terrorism. They rise my blood pressure, increase stress levels and make me hate. Try living somewhere where every 20 minutes such bikes make the windows of your flat shake and you can't hear your TV or your partner talking until the bike is gone. Why do I have to suffer this every day of my life? I can't wait until the ICE is part of our primitive past.

bayindirh 5y ago
I understand that performance engines need unobstructed exhausts up to a certain point, but pipes tuned to amplify this sound is distracting at best, damaging your ears at worst. I don't like them. They become hazardous in tunnels, underpasses and other closed spaces. Ultra loud pipes kill my ears' locating capabilities and I can't mentally place the motorcycle to the correct place so I won't unintentionally endanger it. The place I live has many more motorcycles in recent years and they drive dangerously to save time (delivery guys), and it makes my life as a car driver much more harder. If you always drive in my blind spots and have loud pipes to blind my ears, I cannot see you, even if I very hard to try. So please be a little more considerate.
- VBprogrammer 5y ago
  I don't know what to tell you, I'm normally a pretty sensible type. Stick to the speed limits, have a small sensible car etc. But on a motorbike the noise of the exhaust while riding a motorcycle is intoxicating!
  - goldenkey 5y ago
    Inhaling the exhaust is intoxicating too. Not all of us want to destroy our lives for cheap thrills. https://youtu.be/eEdf0R5ypsg https://youtu.be/eEdf0R5ypsg https://youtu.be/GO6guuJtPkM https://youtu.be/GO6guuJtPkM
  - NikolaNovak 5y ago
    Absolutely. To you. Other 10,000 people you pass be dammed.
  - ubercow13 5y ago
    Lots of 'intoxicating' things are incredibly selfish or even endanger others, that doesn't seem like a justification for anything.
  - bayindirh 5y ago
    Any engine can be intoxicating. Especially 3.0L V6 and upwards. However, having an intoxicating piece of equipment doesn't allow anyone to drive recklessly in public roads, endangering yourself and others. This the the thing I can tell you, as a son of a rally driver.
  - jray 5y ago
    All people who make noise with their motorbikes deserve a slow and painful death.
  - PopePompus 5y ago
    I recently had to move because of the noise caused by people like you.
  - berkes 5y ago
    I live in a nature area, on a curvy road (a dike). On sunny days, the amount of motorcycles passing is insane: several hundreds. Of those, under 1% is like you: rediculously loud, shifting gears too late, etc. Me and my neighbors are so fed up with those 20-something noise pollutors per week, that we're working with our regional govt to ban all motorcycles on these roads, or re-arrange our road so motorcycling is no longer fun, here. Apparently that is the only route left, now. So congratulations: you've managed to spoil a hobby of hundreds of motorcyclists. (Besides being annoying as hell, obviuosly)
    - VBprogrammer 5y ago
      You seem to be projecting. My motorbike always had a street legal exhaust on it and it wasn't particularly loud. Perhaps you should spend less time worrying about a little bit of noise, especially during daylight hours, presumably on mostly sunny days.
      - bayindirh 5y ago
        Can you be underestimating how sound propagates in silent environments, and our brains are so efficient at filtering background noise? Since the pandemic started, traffic around my home decreased tremendously and, even smallest traffic became bothering. In sparsely populated areas, that oddball sound is much more disturbing to residents which are used to silence. BTW, getting angry to people who we don't know personally is not very productive IMHO.
        VBprogrammer 5y ago
        I'm intrigued about which part of that response you thought was angry? The front elevation of my house is less than 15ft away from a reasonably busy road. I'm no stranger to the perils of noise pollution. In fact, around one week a year, last week in fact, the M25 (the London ring road) is diverted overnight along our road. This means we have heavy trucks passing our home all night long. We also live under the departure route for Heathrow (though that's been relatively quiet this year!). I think people should live and let live though. Otherwise we end up in a situation where people are constantly trying to ban other people's hobbies. Off-road driving, motorcycles, horse riding, light aircraft, playing the drums, road cycling, caravaning, beer gardens, smoking weed, barbequing, DIY, fixing up old cars etc. They all have something someone else could find objectional if they lack joy enough in their own life to want to cause misery in someone else's.
- ericbarrett 5y ago
  Hear hear. Noise pollution is one of the biggest reasons why I never want to live in a city again. And loud-pipe motorcycles are by far the biggest contributor to that—more than garbage trucks, delivery vehicles, truck engine (jake) brakes, or even sirens (except in New York where the sirens are inexplicably loud even outside the urban canyons of Manhattan).
- noir_lord 5y ago
  Euro 4/5 big bikes are surprisingly quiet off the floor then they swap the exhaust and it's loud as fuck. I'm a motorcyclist and I'll be moving to a larger bike next year but I want one that is as quiet as practical, on bike comfort is better if you don't scream every time you go over 5K.
- KozmoNau7 5y ago
  > "I understand that performance engines need unobstructed exhausts up to a certain point" As a motorcycle and car enthusiast, that point is way beyond any sort of reasonable level of performance for public roads.
- rorykoehler 5y ago
  Performance engines belong on the race track
GuB-42 5y ago
> To me the sound of those big bikes is a form of terrorism Small bikes are way worse. These 50cc two stroke engines, often illegally modified with loud exhaust. Not only they are as loud if not louder than a big motorbike but they are so slow they linger around for a while, often it populated area like cities. They are popular in France because you only need to be 14 to ride one (vs 18 for cars) and you don't need a license.
- henearkr 5y ago
  I believe that by "the sound of those big bikes" the commenter does not know the bike characteristics other than by their sound, so it's the same either with a physically small or big bike: what he is stating is that he does not like the big sound. That's true that there are big as well as small bikes with an horrendous sound, they are equally harmful. I agree that they should very quickly belong to history (or museums). I wish that this new Yamaha concept will accelerate bikes electrification.
  - hamoid 5y ago
    You are right. Big or small bikes, buses, trucks or a driver trying to quickly burn as much fuel as possible in their car are all disturbing. A difference is that some of them are not trying to be loud on purpose while others are. That's what triggers me. Their violence. If smoking is not allowed I don't understand why this is, or why rules are not enforced. Changing homes is much harder than changing sidewalks. At least there's hope. Seeing silent electric bikes go by makes me smile.
- formerly_proven 5y ago
  Only god knows how much I hate those things. I don't think there's ANY vehicle as infuriating as a two-stroke scooter driving down a street slowly while revving its engine to death. Their stink and noise makes fighter jets blush. Frankly, the permanent hearing damage the riders probably get is well-earned by being such an enormous moron.
- snarfy 5y ago
  Yeah crotch rockets are another level all together. When they open up the throttle on the freeway near my house I can hear them still going at least 2km away!
mrweasel 5y ago
Some motorcycle have an insane high volume bass sound that make me physically sick. If the rider thinks it helps them get noticed in traffic, then fine, but then they should also have on a hi-vis jackets and helmet, which most don’t.
- tartoran 5y ago
  It gets me utterly sick as well and covering my ears does’t help much. I don’t think the only intention is be heard but to be noticed by absolutely everyone, awake or asleep. It’s a show off
- hotz 5y ago
  Hi-viz doesn't work though. I use to look like a walking highlighter, I might as well have been invisible. Put on aftermarket exhaust and people know I'm there. The difference in behaviour was crazy.
  - mrweasel 5y ago
    Sorry, I don’t understand why you’re downvoted, because that’s kinda interesting. Has someone wrote the sound also don’t help in many cases so that could indicate that many aren’t paying enough attention while driving or we’re lacking some way to make bikers visible (both motorcycles and bicycles).
    - hotz 5y ago
      Aftermarket exhaust and slight left/right swerving movements beats hi-viz. The swerving is meant to catch the eye's attention in the side mirrors. Many people also drive with earphones on so whatever external noises they hear is debatable. I'm betting most bikers will agree that hi-viz alone doesn't guarantee that you're visible.
      - Enginerrrd 5y ago
        Not sure I agree with the exhaust, but the weaving seems to help a LOT.
tartoran 5y ago
Harley’s exhausts make me sick even if I cover by ears, the sound vibrates through my body. I also dislike a tool reving all the way up his standing crotch rocket in front of my house, it’s both bad for the engine and done to draw attention and annoy others, why is this even allowed? Or the exploding sound which makes my dog enter a panic attack? They install some special exhausts pipes for that, how is that legal?
- graton 5y ago
  From my understanding a stock Harley coming out of the factory is relatively quiet. They manufacture them to meet legal requirements. It is just that majority of owners seem to replace exhaust system components to give it that "Harley sound". Here is somebody doing a decibel test of their stock Harley: https://youtu.be/4LzFC1Ts7PE?t=63 https://youtu.be/4LzFC1Ts7PE?t=63
eplanit 5y ago
I've always seen people who need/crave loud noises, bright/flashy colors, lots of bling, etc. as just not very bright people. It seems to correlate with lower-than-average intelligence. My theory is that those minds need more 'kinetic' stimulation in order to feel good. So far, after 50+ years of anecdotal experience I've found very few exceptions.

by hamoid 5y ago

bayindirh 5y ago

I understand that performance engines need unobstructed exhausts up to a certain point, but pipes tuned to amplify this sound is distracting at best, damaging your ears at worst. I don't like them. They become hazardous in tunnels, underpasses and other closed spaces. Ultra loud pipes kill my ears' locating capabilities and I can't mentally place the motorcycle to the correct place so I won't unintentionally endanger it. The place I live has many more motorcycles in recent years and they drive dangerously to save time (delivery guys), and it makes my life as a car driver much more harder. If you always drive in my blind spots and have loud pipes to blind my ears, I cannot see you, even if I very hard to try. So please be a little more considerate.

VBprogrammer 5y ago
I don't know what to tell you, I'm normally a pretty sensible type. Stick to the speed limits, have a small sensible car etc. But on a motorbike the noise of the exhaust while riding a motorcycle is intoxicating!
- goldenkey 5y ago
  Inhaling the exhaust is intoxicating too. Not all of us want to destroy our lives for cheap thrills. https://youtu.be/eEdf0R5ypsg https://youtu.be/eEdf0R5ypsg https://youtu.be/GO6guuJtPkM https://youtu.be/GO6guuJtPkM
- NikolaNovak 5y ago
  Absolutely. To you. Other 10,000 people you pass be dammed.
- ubercow13 5y ago
  Lots of 'intoxicating' things are incredibly selfish or even endanger others, that doesn't seem like a justification for anything.
- bayindirh 5y ago
  Any engine can be intoxicating. Especially 3.0L V6 and upwards. However, having an intoxicating piece of equipment doesn't allow anyone to drive recklessly in public roads, endangering yourself and others. This the the thing I can tell you, as a son of a rally driver.
- jray 5y ago
  All people who make noise with their motorbikes deserve a slow and painful death.
- PopePompus 5y ago
  I recently had to move because of the noise caused by people like you.
- berkes 5y ago
  I live in a nature area, on a curvy road (a dike). On sunny days, the amount of motorcycles passing is insane: several hundreds. Of those, under 1% is like you: rediculously loud, shifting gears too late, etc. Me and my neighbors are so fed up with those 20-something noise pollutors per week, that we're working with our regional govt to ban all motorcycles on these roads, or re-arrange our road so motorcycling is no longer fun, here. Apparently that is the only route left, now. So congratulations: you've managed to spoil a hobby of hundreds of motorcyclists. (Besides being annoying as hell, obviuosly)
  - VBprogrammer 5y ago
    You seem to be projecting. My motorbike always had a street legal exhaust on it and it wasn't particularly loud. Perhaps you should spend less time worrying about a little bit of noise, especially during daylight hours, presumably on mostly sunny days.
    - bayindirh 5y ago
      Can you be underestimating how sound propagates in silent environments, and our brains are so efficient at filtering background noise? Since the pandemic started, traffic around my home decreased tremendously and, even smallest traffic became bothering. In sparsely populated areas, that oddball sound is much more disturbing to residents which are used to silence. BTW, getting angry to people who we don't know personally is not very productive IMHO.
      - VBprogrammer 5y ago
        I'm intrigued about which part of that response you thought was angry? The front elevation of my house is less than 15ft away from a reasonably busy road. I'm no stranger to the perils of noise pollution. In fact, around one week a year, last week in fact, the M25 (the London ring road) is diverted overnight along our road. This means we have heavy trucks passing our home all night long. We also live under the departure route for Heathrow (though that's been relatively quiet this year!). I think people should live and let live though. Otherwise we end up in a situation where people are constantly trying to ban other people's hobbies. Off-road driving, motorcycles, horse riding, light aircraft, playing the drums, road cycling, caravaning, beer gardens, smoking weed, barbequing, DIY, fixing up old cars etc. They all have something someone else could find objectional if they lack joy enough in their own life to want to cause misery in someone else's.
ericbarrett 5y ago
Hear hear. Noise pollution is one of the biggest reasons why I never want to live in a city again. And loud-pipe motorcycles are by far the biggest contributor to that—more than garbage trucks, delivery vehicles, truck engine (jake) brakes, or even sirens (except in New York where the sirens are inexplicably loud even outside the urban canyons of Manhattan).
noir_lord 5y ago
Euro 4/5 big bikes are surprisingly quiet off the floor then they swap the exhaust and it's loud as fuck. I'm a motorcyclist and I'll be moving to a larger bike next year but I want one that is as quiet as practical, on bike comfort is better if you don't scream every time you go over 5K.
KozmoNau7 5y ago
> "I understand that performance engines need unobstructed exhausts up to a certain point" As a motorcycle and car enthusiast, that point is way beyond any sort of reasonable level of performance for public roads.
rorykoehler 5y ago
Performance engines belong on the race track

GuB-42 5y ago

> To me the sound of those big bikes is a form of terrorism Small bikes are way worse. These 50cc two stroke engines, often illegally modified with loud exhaust. Not only they are as loud if not louder than a big motorbike but they are so slow they linger around for a while, often it populated area like cities. They are popular in France because you only need to be 14 to ride one (vs 18 for cars) and you don't need a license.

henearkr 5y ago
I believe that by "the sound of those big bikes" the commenter does not know the bike characteristics other than by their sound, so it's the same either with a physically small or big bike: what he is stating is that he does not like the big sound. That's true that there are big as well as small bikes with an horrendous sound, they are equally harmful. I agree that they should very quickly belong to history (or museums). I wish that this new Yamaha concept will accelerate bikes electrification.
- hamoid 5y ago
  You are right. Big or small bikes, buses, trucks or a driver trying to quickly burn as much fuel as possible in their car are all disturbing. A difference is that some of them are not trying to be loud on purpose while others are. That's what triggers me. Their violence. If smoking is not allowed I don't understand why this is, or why rules are not enforced. Changing homes is much harder than changing sidewalks. At least there's hope. Seeing silent electric bikes go by makes me smile.
formerly_proven 5y ago
Only god knows how much I hate those things. I don't think there's ANY vehicle as infuriating as a two-stroke scooter driving down a street slowly while revving its engine to death. Their stink and noise makes fighter jets blush. Frankly, the permanent hearing damage the riders probably get is well-earned by being such an enormous moron.
snarfy 5y ago
Yeah crotch rockets are another level all together. When they open up the throttle on the freeway near my house I can hear them still going at least 2km away!

mrweasel 5y ago

Some motorcycle have an insane high volume bass sound that make me physically sick. If the rider thinks it helps them get noticed in traffic, then fine, but then they should also have on a hi-vis jackets and helmet, which most don’t.

tartoran 5y ago
It gets me utterly sick as well and covering my ears does’t help much. I don’t think the only intention is be heard but to be noticed by absolutely everyone, awake or asleep. It’s a show off
hotz 5y ago
Hi-viz doesn't work though. I use to look like a walking highlighter, I might as well have been invisible. Put on aftermarket exhaust and people know I'm there. The difference in behaviour was crazy.
- mrweasel 5y ago
  Sorry, I don’t understand why you’re downvoted, because that’s kinda interesting. Has someone wrote the sound also don’t help in many cases so that could indicate that many aren’t paying enough attention while driving or we’re lacking some way to make bikers visible (both motorcycles and bicycles).
  - hotz 5y ago
    Aftermarket exhaust and slight left/right swerving movements beats hi-viz. The swerving is meant to catch the eye's attention in the side mirrors. Many people also drive with earphones on so whatever external noises they hear is debatable. I'm betting most bikers will agree that hi-viz alone doesn't guarantee that you're visible.
    - Enginerrrd 5y ago
      Not sure I agree with the exhaust, but the weaving seems to help a LOT.

tartoran 5y ago

Harley’s exhausts make me sick even if I cover by ears, the sound vibrates through my body. I also dislike a tool reving all the way up his standing crotch rocket in front of my house, it’s both bad for the engine and done to draw attention and annoy others, why is this even allowed? Or the exploding sound which makes my dog enter a panic attack? They install some special exhausts pipes for that, how is that legal?

graton 5y ago
From my understanding a stock Harley coming out of the factory is relatively quiet. They manufacture them to meet legal requirements. It is just that majority of owners seem to replace exhaust system components to give it that "Harley sound". Here is somebody doing a decibel test of their stock Harley: https://youtu.be/4LzFC1Ts7PE?t=63 https://youtu.be/4LzFC1Ts7PE?t=63

eplanit 5y ago

I've always seen people who need/crave loud noises, bright/flashy colors, lots of bling, etc. as just not very bright people. It seems to correlate with lower-than-average intelligence. My theory is that those minds need more 'kinetic' stimulation in order to feel good. So far, after 50+ years of anecdotal experience I've found very few exceptions.