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I hate SPSS, SAS and other GUI enhanced statistical software because it makes it too easy for the blind with no sound training to analyze data and come up with

I hate SPSS, SAS and other GUI enhanced statistical software because it makes it too easy for the blind with no sound training to analyze data and come up with laughable conclusions. This is a nightmare.

hermitcrab 5y ago
Isn't that a bit like saying that we shouldn't allow anyone sharp knives, in case stupid people cut themselves? And wouldn't they just do in it Excel instead, probably with even worse results?
- jacobdi 5y ago
  I have been working on this problem for a little while. I don't think the issue is that Excel is inherently worse for data wrangling -- it just isn't scalable or easily traceable. My solution is a spreadsheet extension for Jupyter Notebooks, that lets you transform your data visually and outputs the equivalent Pandas. Website, for any interested: http://trymito.io/ http://trymito.io/ Automated data prep/transformation is definitely a useful solution, and obviously is going to be a part of most data wrangling tools in the future. I think the danger is a lack of visibility and tracing, something a combo between spreadsheets and pandas provides well -- I think :)
  - stevenicr 5y ago
    Like to suggest adding to the page title on the homepage - maybe even just 'data python spreadsheets jupyter' - when went to bookmark I noticed it only had 'mito' in the name.. so if I go back like 3 weeks from now to my bookmarks or whatever and type spreadsheets jup - maybe your thing would not show up (?) Maybe I'm wrong - I have yet to do a deep dive on what data firefox indexes when I bookmark things.
- stewbrew 5y ago
  Well I actually think people with no appropriate training shouldn't do open brain surgery. I think the main problem here is underestimating the complexity of a problem and these tools don't improve the situation. Oh Excel ... I don't even know where to start.
papandada 5y ago
Good analysis or bad analysis, people making decisions just do what they want anyhow. In my cynical and simplistic summary of my own experience.

hermitcrab 5y ago

Isn't that a bit like saying that we shouldn't allow anyone sharp knives, in case stupid people cut themselves? And wouldn't they just do in it Excel instead, probably with even worse results?

jacobdi 5y ago
I have been working on this problem for a little while. I don't think the issue is that Excel is inherently worse for data wrangling -- it just isn't scalable or easily traceable. My solution is a spreadsheet extension for Jupyter Notebooks, that lets you transform your data visually and outputs the equivalent Pandas. Website, for any interested: http://trymito.io/ http://trymito.io/ Automated data prep/transformation is definitely a useful solution, and obviously is going to be a part of most data wrangling tools in the future. I think the danger is a lack of visibility and tracing, something a combo between spreadsheets and pandas provides well -- I think :)
- stevenicr 5y ago
  Like to suggest adding to the page title on the homepage - maybe even just 'data python spreadsheets jupyter' - when went to bookmark I noticed it only had 'mito' in the name.. so if I go back like 3 weeks from now to my bookmarks or whatever and type spreadsheets jup - maybe your thing would not show up (?) Maybe I'm wrong - I have yet to do a deep dive on what data firefox indexes when I bookmark things.
stewbrew 5y ago
Well I actually think people with no appropriate training shouldn't do open brain surgery. I think the main problem here is underestimating the complexity of a problem and these tools don't improve the situation. Oh Excel ... I don't even know where to start.

papandada 5y ago

Good analysis or bad analysis, people making decisions just do what they want anyhow. In my cynical and simplistic summary of my own experience.