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Why do companies not only hire women if it is cheaper?

by sjaak 5y ago

slater 5y ago
Even worse (?) gender discrimination, and not enough ladies in the workforce?
valdiorn 5y ago
Because the gap exists for reasons besides "sexism".
- actually_a_dog 5y ago
  Such as?
  - meowkit 5y ago
    Women are less likely to negotiate. Women are more likely to be the primary caretaker, causing them to often times leave the workforce early and lose out on valuable experience if they choose to return.
  - californical 5y ago
    This article has lots of good reasons: https://www.forbes.com/sites/tomspiggle/2021/05/25/the-gender-pay-gap-why-its-still-here/?sh=6e0e3ce17baf https://www.forbes.com/sites/tomspiggle/2021/05/25/the-gende... I think one of the most significant is that women tend to be more likely to go for jobs that may pay slightly less but offer more benefits like flexibility. There are also greater societal issues with how a child is raised that lead to girls gravitating towards certain career aspirations, and away from others — especially noticeable in engineering.
- DamnYuppie 5y ago
  Agreed, experience, time in the role, and tech stacks all play a part. Long ago I had a female peer, with whom I was good friends, complain that she made less than me. We had completely different backgrounds and worked on different systems. I was on an async messaging platform and she did Java web development. She was one of the highest paid in her group but was fixated on my salary as she found out how much I made when I was purchasing a home and her friend was my real estate agent. It was all quite sad really.
  - foogazi 5y ago
    > We had completely different backgrounds and worked on different systems. I was on an async messaging platform and she did Java web development. I don’t buy this as the reason, it sounds like after the fact rationalization on your part to explain the status quo Did everyone on the async messaging team earn more than the java web developers? I could very easily see her earning more than you due to a multitude of reasons
    - DamnYuppie 5y ago
      Well the base salary for the tech stack I was working on at the time was substantially higher. Also I worked in another part of the country and she had spent 20 years working in the same company in a small town in Florida. Honestly there are more reasons why i was paid more then there ever would be to justify why she should have been paid the same. Also my team handled the product that delivered 80% of the companies revenue and 90% of its profits.
karpierz 5y ago
Why didn't companies only hire black factory workers during the era of Jim Crow?
- rightbyte 5y ago
  Isn't that what some did? Aswell as women only factories.
- LatteLazy 5y ago
  Because the KKK would kill the owner and burn it down and the police wouldn't investigate.
- foogazi 5y ago
  Go back a 100-200 years and check in on plantations
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Why do companies not only hire women if it is cheaper?

by sjaak 5y ago

Why do companies not only hire women if it is cheaper?

slater 5y ago

Even worse (?) gender discrimination, and not enough ladies in the workforce?

valdiorn 5y ago

Because the gap exists for reasons besides "sexism".

actually_a_dog 5y ago
Such as?
- meowkit 5y ago
  Women are less likely to negotiate. Women are more likely to be the primary caretaker, causing them to often times leave the workforce early and lose out on valuable experience if they choose to return.
- californical 5y ago
  This article has lots of good reasons: https://www.forbes.com/sites/tomspiggle/2021/05/25/the-gender-pay-gap-why-its-still-here/?sh=6e0e3ce17baf https://www.forbes.com/sites/tomspiggle/2021/05/25/the-gende... I think one of the most significant is that women tend to be more likely to go for jobs that may pay slightly less but offer more benefits like flexibility. There are also greater societal issues with how a child is raised that lead to girls gravitating towards certain career aspirations, and away from others — especially noticeable in engineering.
DamnYuppie 5y ago
Agreed, experience, time in the role, and tech stacks all play a part. Long ago I had a female peer, with whom I was good friends, complain that she made less than me. We had completely different backgrounds and worked on different systems. I was on an async messaging platform and she did Java web development. She was one of the highest paid in her group but was fixated on my salary as she found out how much I made when I was purchasing a home and her friend was my real estate agent. It was all quite sad really.
- foogazi 5y ago
  > We had completely different backgrounds and worked on different systems. I was on an async messaging platform and she did Java web development. I don’t buy this as the reason, it sounds like after the fact rationalization on your part to explain the status quo Did everyone on the async messaging team earn more than the java web developers? I could very easily see her earning more than you due to a multitude of reasons
  - DamnYuppie 5y ago
    Well the base salary for the tech stack I was working on at the time was substantially higher. Also I worked in another part of the country and she had spent 20 years working in the same company in a small town in Florida. Honestly there are more reasons why i was paid more then there ever would be to justify why she should have been paid the same. Also my team handled the product that delivered 80% of the companies revenue and 90% of its profits.

karpierz 5y ago

Why didn't companies only hire black factory workers during the era of Jim Crow?

rightbyte 5y ago
Isn't that what some did? Aswell as women only factories.
LatteLazy 5y ago
Because the KKK would kill the owner and burn it down and the police wouldn't investigate.
foogazi 5y ago
Go back a 100-200 years and check in on plantations

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