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Occam's razor breaks down precisely in the long tail. > The thing is, these pilots have instruments, jobs, and mindsets that are intended to handle known thing

Occam's razor breaks down precisely in the long tail. > The thing is, these pilots have instruments, jobs, and mindsets that are intended to handle known things. They are neither impartial nor critical observers. The key thing is we don't know yet what they saw, nor do they. We don't even know if these are "objects" or sensor/sensory "artifacts". There's a lot to unpack here. Yes, they are intended to handle known things. Drones, weather balloons, cloud formations, jet plumes. These are all known, and our observations do not match them. Impartial nor critical? I would suggest you watch the interviews with the pilots from the USS Nimitz incident. It's mentioned a major reason we don't hear a lot of these accounts is because of the stigma of reporting UFOs, which is why his copilots have been silent on the matter until now. Lastly they are real objects. Multiple eye witness accounts with multiple radar signatures, from carriers and jets.

crispyambulance 5y ago
> ...suggest you watch the interviews with the pilots from the USS Nimitz incident. I did and I am not convinced their observations reveal much about these phenomena. Military pilots are very capable people with good eyes, but they're trained and focused strictly on their very demanding job. They are not in the air to conduct general-purpose scientific observations, nor do they necessarily have the tools at their disposal to truly evaluate what they're seeing. > Drones, weather balloons, cloud formations, jet plumes. These are all known, and our observations do not match them. Do not match any? Or some? or one? There's multiple videos out there, very different from each other and each could have a different explanation. It really does come down to Occam's Razor.
- behnamoh 5y ago
  Every time a person refuses comments made by another person in bullet points, I find it hard to believe they are in fact looking for the truth and are not biased. The person who commented on your comment clearly provided information about what you said, but you're just disagreeing with him.
  - crispyambulance 5y ago
    What “bullet points” ? In any case, I am addressing all his assertions respectfully.
- stevenhuang 5y ago
  > There's multiple videos out there, very different from each other and each could have a different explanation. In isolation yes, the videos are not remarkable. But it's not in isolation, as you seem to be discounting the context they're taken and ignoring the relevance of the eye witness accounts and their flight behaviour on radar (descending from space, disappearing and reappearing a hundred miles away, etc). Unless you think they're all in on something or lying, which is fair enough, but from how the situation is unfolding with demands from congress, experiences of all the service members, and civilian pilots, I'm partial there is something of a phenomena here. > It really does come down to Occam's Razor Heuristics apply in the general case but definitionally may not when there is enough evidence the event is an outlier.

crispyambulance 5y ago

> ...suggest you watch the interviews with the pilots from the USS Nimitz incident. I did and I am not convinced their observations reveal much about these phenomena. Military pilots are very capable people with good eyes, but they're trained and focused strictly on their very demanding job. They are not in the air to conduct general-purpose scientific observations, nor do they necessarily have the tools at their disposal to truly evaluate what they're seeing. > Drones, weather balloons, cloud formations, jet plumes. These are all known, and our observations do not match them. Do not match any? Or some? or one? There's multiple videos out there, very different from each other and each could have a different explanation. It really does come down to Occam's Razor.

behnamoh 5y ago
Every time a person refuses comments made by another person in bullet points, I find it hard to believe they are in fact looking for the truth and are not biased. The person who commented on your comment clearly provided information about what you said, but you're just disagreeing with him.
- crispyambulance 5y ago
  What “bullet points” ? In any case, I am addressing all his assertions respectfully.
stevenhuang 5y ago
> There's multiple videos out there, very different from each other and each could have a different explanation. In isolation yes, the videos are not remarkable. But it's not in isolation, as you seem to be discounting the context they're taken and ignoring the relevance of the eye witness accounts and their flight behaviour on radar (descending from space, disappearing and reappearing a hundred miles away, etc). Unless you think they're all in on something or lying, which is fair enough, but from how the situation is unfolding with demands from congress, experiences of all the service members, and civilian pilots, I'm partial there is something of a phenomena here. > It really does come down to Occam's Razor Heuristics apply in the general case but definitionally may not when there is enough evidence the event is an outlier.