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It will be interesting to see how the mobile based options drive competition. I think T-Mobile and Verizon are available in the $50-60 range at my house. At s

by davio 5y ago

It will be interesting to see how the mobile based options drive competition. I think T-Mobile and Verizon are available in the $50-60 range at my house. At some point AT&T will have gigabit so I'll have 5 options with Starlink in beta.

pgrote 5y ago
> I think T-Mobile and Verizon are available in the $50-60 range 5G is unavailable in my area, so I haven't been able to see plans. Are there data limits? Throttling after a certain amount?
- toomuchtodo 5y ago
  No limits on T-Mobile Home Broadband. In areas without 5G, the device uses LTE and still delivers reasonable speeds.
WarOnPrivacy 5y ago
> It will be interesting to see how the mobile based options drive competition. I've been watching market prices for ages, spent years as a broadband reseller. I've yet to see (or read about) an instance where wireline operators considered mobile data to be meaningful competition.
- ctdonath 5y ago
  Well, only now is long-range wireless becoming a viable competitor. Kodak didn't see digital photography as meaningful competition, until customers switch en masse within months. Smith-Corona didn't see personal computers as meaningful competition, until customers switched en masse within months. Ditto MySpace, AOL, CompuServe, etc. Wired monopoly-based ~50Mbps service had no meaningful competition - until wireless modest-activation ~500Mbps is individually available at comparable cost. You haven't seen it because it wasn't here. As of a few months hence, it's here. Only reason I haven't dropped local wired service for Starlink is I get a substantial discount on the former; I'm looking for any excuse to switch.
  - dboreham 5y ago
    Except Kodak's competition didn't need to break laws of physics.
- zbrozek 5y ago
  I've personally taken two properties off of DSL and onto cellular with pretty-respectable service quality. In both cases latency and throughput and cost improved. The competition from wireless is real and getting better all the time. That said, I think that's often used as an excuse to not invest in wired infrastructure which should be dramatically superior, but often simply isn't.
  - WarOnPrivacy 5y ago
    DSL is an unfortunately low bar. Regardless, it's the only choice for tons of people so your experience is encouraging.
    - zbrozek 5y ago
      It's true, but at one of those properties I wouldn't even consider Starlink because the cellular service is cheaper and perfectly good. 70/70 most of the time for $35/mo at 30-40 ms latency to most of the region.

by davio 5y ago

pgrote 5y ago

> I think T-Mobile and Verizon are available in the $50-60 range 5G is unavailable in my area, so I haven't been able to see plans. Are there data limits? Throttling after a certain amount?

toomuchtodo 5y ago
No limits on T-Mobile Home Broadband. In areas without 5G, the device uses LTE and still delivers reasonable speeds.

WarOnPrivacy 5y ago

> It will be interesting to see how the mobile based options drive competition. I've been watching market prices for ages, spent years as a broadband reseller. I've yet to see (or read about) an instance where wireline operators considered mobile data to be meaningful competition.

ctdonath 5y ago
Well, only now is long-range wireless becoming a viable competitor. Kodak didn't see digital photography as meaningful competition, until customers switch en masse within months. Smith-Corona didn't see personal computers as meaningful competition, until customers switched en masse within months. Ditto MySpace, AOL, CompuServe, etc. Wired monopoly-based ~50Mbps service had no meaningful competition - until wireless modest-activation ~500Mbps is individually available at comparable cost. You haven't seen it because it wasn't here. As of a few months hence, it's here. Only reason I haven't dropped local wired service for Starlink is I get a substantial discount on the former; I'm looking for any excuse to switch.
- dboreham 5y ago
  Except Kodak's competition didn't need to break laws of physics.
zbrozek 5y ago
I've personally taken two properties off of DSL and onto cellular with pretty-respectable service quality. In both cases latency and throughput and cost improved. The competition from wireless is real and getting better all the time. That said, I think that's often used as an excuse to not invest in wired infrastructure which should be dramatically superior, but often simply isn't.
- WarOnPrivacy 5y ago
  DSL is an unfortunately low bar. Regardless, it's the only choice for tons of people so your experience is encouraging.
  - zbrozek 5y ago
    It's true, but at one of those properties I wouldn't even consider Starlink because the cellular service is cheaper and perfectly good. 70/70 most of the time for $35/mo at 30-40 ms latency to most of the region.