So do it. Nobody is preventing you from putting your money where your mouth is and placing your ideas or technologies for energy efficiency on the market. I,

So do it. Nobody is preventing you from putting your money where your mouth is and placing your ideas or technologies for energy efficiency on the market. I, for one, am sick of reading this noise of "we should X" or "if only we did Y" (I would posit that is the source of the general dislike for political threads on HN). If [any of] you really believe in what you are saying, do something about it. On the other hand, if you believe oil-less technologies will only work in conjunction with government intervention of the oil markets, maybe you should stop preaching about them until the market reaches a point where oil is more expensive than the alternatives. Here's a [random] energy-saving idea. Internet businesses with a 12-hour business day. The downtime each day without drives, networks, CPUs, monitors, etc. running will save a bunch of power.