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This comment avoids the facts noted in the linked article, which seem to point to perpetual immunity of anyone who was infected by SARS-CoV-2 in the past.

skrowl 5y ago
It's strange how the same people who scream "TRUST THE SCIENCE" the loudest seem to ignore your body naturally producing antibodies to Covid after you've been infected and recovered. You simply don't need a vaccine to help your body produce antibodies if you already have them. Not just for covid 19 but for anything. Don't let anyone shame you or pressure you into getting a vaccine that you're not comfortable getting.
- Accacin 5y ago
  What's your area of expertise regarding antibodies? I'm quite happy admitting that I do not know anything other than the basics and trust in experts in their respective fields instead.
  - skrowl 5y ago
    It's literally in OP's linked article. Did you come here to comment without even clicking the link?
  - willcipriano 5y ago
    I don't trust anyone without running a skeptical eye over their claims. Blind faith in authority is authoritarianism manifest.
- Frost1x 5y ago
  >It's strange how the same people who scream "TRUST THE SCIENCE" the loudest seem to ignore your body naturally producing antibodies to Covid after you've been infected and recovered. It's not strange at all. Human beings have probably been doing this since not too long after languages developed: Do 'X' because 'Y', since 'Y' is in agreement with my opinion and personal interests of you doing 'X'. 'Y' may be science, religion, math, emotion, whatever. The point is that many people will push information they want pushed with and later contradict themselves if need be as long as they can consistently push the information they want. The arguments and rationale are usually secondary, not the primary driver. Politicians do this a lot. It's lying in the form of intellectual dishonesty or sheer ignorance. Many highly religious people push firm accordance with their religion or their interpretation of their religion, while allowing their own desires to shape those ground rules: they pick and choose which rules to follow literally and which to interpret, and so on. There are a lot of people out peddling things in the name of science but they don't understand science: evidence, process, uncertainty, etc. When it comes to COVID we've learned a lot but there's still a lot of uncertainty around a lot of aspects in various studies and we need to understand that with humility and act accordingly.
bryanlarsen 5y ago
You must have read a different article than I did. It just talked about the production of antibodies. They help fight off infection but don't necessarily make you immune. The article also specifically mentions vulnerability to variants.
- kcmastrpc 5y ago
  Isn't that how vaccines works?
  - itake 5y ago
    My understanding is the antibodies created from the vaccine are not the same antibodies that maybe created from having one of the main strains of the virus and thus would not offer the same level of protection.
- jtdev 5y ago
  > “They help fight off infection…” Yeah, that’s what the immune system does.
  - bryanlarsen 5y ago
    Providing partial immunity, not necessarily full immunity.
amalcon 5y ago
There are multiple documented cases where a person caught COVID twice (where the two instances were genetically different, and therefore not a false positive caused by lingering dead virus). The linked article only indicates that antibody production should continue for a long time, but that's only one factor in robust long-term immunity. The rate of antibody production and the set of proteins that the antibodies target are also very important. It's good news to be sure, but it doesn't yet prove what you seem to want it to.
- loveistheanswer 5y ago
  >There are multiple documented cases where a person caught COVID twice There have been far more breakthrough cases of fully vaccinated people than there have been confirmed reinfections.
  - dragonwriter 5y ago
    > There have been far more breakthrough cases of fully vaccinated people than there have been confirmed reinfections. Yeah, but there are vastly more vaccinated people than people have been confirmed infected even once, so that doesn’t really tell you anything. (Currently, the number of vaccination doses being delivered per day globally is about 1/5 the total number of confirmed global COVID cases.)
    - loveistheanswer 5y ago
      Thats a good point. We'd need to compare the number of confirmed reinfections divided by confirmed infections with the number of breakthrough cases divided by the number of fully vaccinated people. Its also worth noting the confirmed reinfection count is on a much longer time scale than breakthrough infections. So we currently have more data about the long term natural immunity than we do for vaccinated immunity.
- jtdev 5y ago
  Of those cases, I’ve seen zero reported as symptomatic. If you have any proof otherwise please link sources.

skrowl 5y ago

It's strange how the same people who scream "TRUST THE SCIENCE" the loudest seem to ignore your body naturally producing antibodies to Covid after you've been infected and recovered. You simply don't need a vaccine to help your body produce antibodies if you already have them. Not just for covid 19 but for anything. Don't let anyone shame you or pressure you into getting a vaccine that you're not comfortable getting.

Accacin 5y ago
What's your area of expertise regarding antibodies? I'm quite happy admitting that I do not know anything other than the basics and trust in experts in their respective fields instead.
- skrowl 5y ago
  It's literally in OP's linked article. Did you come here to comment without even clicking the link?
- willcipriano 5y ago
  I don't trust anyone without running a skeptical eye over their claims. Blind faith in authority is authoritarianism manifest.
Frost1x 5y ago
>It's strange how the same people who scream "TRUST THE SCIENCE" the loudest seem to ignore your body naturally producing antibodies to Covid after you've been infected and recovered. It's not strange at all. Human beings have probably been doing this since not too long after languages developed: Do 'X' because 'Y', since 'Y' is in agreement with my opinion and personal interests of you doing 'X'. 'Y' may be science, religion, math, emotion, whatever. The point is that many people will push information they want pushed with and later contradict themselves if need be as long as they can consistently push the information they want. The arguments and rationale are usually secondary, not the primary driver. Politicians do this a lot. It's lying in the form of intellectual dishonesty or sheer ignorance. Many highly religious people push firm accordance with their religion or their interpretation of their religion, while allowing their own desires to shape those ground rules: they pick and choose which rules to follow literally and which to interpret, and so on. There are a lot of people out peddling things in the name of science but they don't understand science: evidence, process, uncertainty, etc. When it comes to COVID we've learned a lot but there's still a lot of uncertainty around a lot of aspects in various studies and we need to understand that with humility and act accordingly.

bryanlarsen 5y ago

You must have read a different article than I did. It just talked about the production of antibodies. They help fight off infection but don't necessarily make you immune. The article also specifically mentions vulnerability to variants.

kcmastrpc 5y ago
Isn't that how vaccines works?
- itake 5y ago
  My understanding is the antibodies created from the vaccine are not the same antibodies that maybe created from having one of the main strains of the virus and thus would not offer the same level of protection.
jtdev 5y ago
> “They help fight off infection…” Yeah, that’s what the immune system does.
- bryanlarsen 5y ago
  Providing partial immunity, not necessarily full immunity.

amalcon 5y ago

There are multiple documented cases where a person caught COVID twice (where the two instances were genetically different, and therefore not a false positive caused by lingering dead virus). The linked article only indicates that antibody production should continue for a long time, but that's only one factor in robust long-term immunity. The rate of antibody production and the set of proteins that the antibodies target are also very important. It's good news to be sure, but it doesn't yet prove what you seem to want it to.

loveistheanswer 5y ago
>There are multiple documented cases where a person caught COVID twice There have been far more breakthrough cases of fully vaccinated people than there have been confirmed reinfections.
- dragonwriter 5y ago
  > There have been far more breakthrough cases of fully vaccinated people than there have been confirmed reinfections. Yeah, but there are vastly more vaccinated people than people have been confirmed infected even once, so that doesn’t really tell you anything. (Currently, the number of vaccination doses being delivered per day globally is about 1/5 the total number of confirmed global COVID cases.)
  - loveistheanswer 5y ago
    Thats a good point. We'd need to compare the number of confirmed reinfections divided by confirmed infections with the number of breakthrough cases divided by the number of fully vaccinated people. Its also worth noting the confirmed reinfection count is on a much longer time scale than breakthrough infections. So we currently have more data about the long term natural immunity than we do for vaccinated immunity.
jtdev 5y ago
Of those cases, I’ve seen zero reported as symptomatic. If you have any proof otherwise please link sources.