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I might not be familiar enough with the original tools, nor the Rust ecosystem, so excuse me if this is misinformed. But the trend seems to be that the Rust too

I might not be familiar enough with the original tools, nor the Rust ecosystem, so excuse me if this is misinformed. But the trend seems to be that the Rust tooling is a lot richer than their original counterparts. Is this accurate? And if so, is it super easy to write rich CLIs, with tabulated, coloured, interactive TUIs in Rust? Are their some common, widely used libraries driving this trend?

13415 5y ago
Nothing in Rust is super easy, it's an overengineered pile of crap and in 20 years from now people will be cursing at it daily.
- cestith 5y ago
  If people are still cursing at your programming language 20 or 30 years later, you've done at least a decent job of things. Do you hear many people complaining about Eiffel, Dylan, or Boo lately?
afarrell 5y ago
> Are their some common, widely used libraries driving this trend. The rust community leadership made a strategic decision to pick 4 areas to suggest focus on. CLIs was one of them. (Scroll to “build it in rust” on https://www.rust-lang.org/ https://www.rust-lang.org/) I think this choice and many others by the rust leadership merit a case study in community technical leadership. Or at least a blog post by the author of https://www.kalzumeus.com/2014/04/09/what-heartbleed-can-teach-the-oss-community-about-marketing/ https://www.kalzumeus.com/2014/04/09/what-heartbleed-can-tea...
jll29 5y ago
Some are supersets and many are experimental subsets. It's early days, similar to when everyone wrote their own editor in TurboPascal. Regarding TUIs, have a look at thes screenshots and example codebases for these libraries: https://crates.io/crates/tui https://crates.io/crates/tui https://crates.io/crates/spotify-tui https://crates.io/crates/spotify-tui https://crates.io/crates/cursive https://crates.io/crates/cursive TUIs are in many ways more ergonomical, in particular they make experienced users more productive and they can help reduce RSI by limiting the need to move the mouse.

13415 5y ago

Nothing in Rust is super easy, it's an overengineered pile of crap and in 20 years from now people will be cursing at it daily.

cestith 5y ago
If people are still cursing at your programming language 20 or 30 years later, you've done at least a decent job of things. Do you hear many people complaining about Eiffel, Dylan, or Boo lately?

afarrell 5y ago

> Are their some common, widely used libraries driving this trend. The rust community leadership made a strategic decision to pick 4 areas to suggest focus on. CLIs was one of them. (Scroll to “build it in rust” on https://www.rust-lang.org/ https://www.rust-lang.org/) I think this choice and many others by the rust leadership merit a case study in community technical leadership. Or at least a blog post by the author of https://www.kalzumeus.com/2014/04/09/what-heartbleed-can-teach-the-oss-community-about-marketing/ https://www.kalzumeus.com/2014/04/09/what-heartbleed-can-tea...

jll29 5y ago

Some are supersets and many are experimental subsets. It's early days, similar to when everyone wrote their own editor in TurboPascal. Regarding TUIs, have a look at thes screenshots and example codebases for these libraries: https://crates.io/crates/tui https://crates.io/crates/tui https://crates.io/crates/spotify-tui https://crates.io/crates/spotify-tui https://crates.io/crates/cursive https://crates.io/crates/cursive TUIs are in many ways more ergonomical, in particular they make experienced users more productive and they can help reduce RSI by limiting the need to move the mouse.