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The phantom braking is not a radar issue, it's an issue with the vision system. That's why removing radar is such a monumentally stupid idea because Tesla's vis
by computerex 5y ago
The phantom braking is not a radar issue, it's an issue with the vision system. That's why removing radar is such a monumentally stupid idea because Tesla's vision system has proven itself to be a pile of burning dog poop.
If their vision system was actually good/safe and was truly unneeded then they'd have a stronger case for removing radar (but not a watertight case, because redundancy). As it is, their vision system sucks.
- nickik 5y ago> The phantom braking is not a radar issue, it's an issue with the vision system. Where are you getting that information?
- computerex 5y agoThe internet. There are hundreds of complaints on the Tesla forums of phantom braking happening due to shadows.
- computerex 5y agoElon's rationale for pure vision: https://urlshortner.org/uwLlv https://urlshortner.org/uwLlv It shows his ignorance. What happens when their model misclassifies with high confidence and fails to detect an obstacle? A collision. There is a reason why every major company out there uses radar/LIDAR in addition to vision. It's because machine vision is a heuristic and it can and will fail with high confidence in its predictions. In those situations if you only have vision you are screwed. Whereas lidar/radar are based on physics. They are physical systems and thus fundamentally more reliable and consistent than MV. Thats why we use lidar/radar in places like the ISS to dock vehicles, because safety is critical.