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>How would this work for e.g. Montana with seemingly-endless lengths of highway and a very low population density? Why would they need nice roads then? Seems l
by pedroma 5y ago
>How would this work for e.g. Montana with seemingly-endless lengths of highway and a very low population density?
Why would they need nice roads then? Seems like a waste of money to build a bunch of expensive roads for the 5,000 people who use them. They can manage with cheap roads and dirt roads that don't need much maintenance. The Chinese rural areas manage just fine with dirt roads, and those areas have way higher population densities.
>You're protected by prisons, so you are a user of the service provided by them and must therefore pay under your model.
Why should I pay for someone's crimes? It's such a stupid system. If they are murderers they should just receive the capital punishment. And if the crime is not murder, they can be put into factories where they are able produce something of value -- farming or whatever. If their business is not profitable it should at least reduce the taxpayer burden. I know this is dreamland ideal world logic, but working closer to this certainly doesn't hurt, with the alternative being they don't do anything at all and are pure leeches. Yes, I know they make license plates but surely they can do a little more than that with such a huge prison population. This also incentivizes training them and providing them skills when they leave prison -- if training them with skills will help the prison make money, why not? The inmate also leaves the prison with job prospects with many years of experience in a trade.
>Do you believe only private schools should exist?
Private schools have higher success rate for their graduates. There are other factors that play into this, obviously. Let me ask you this first - do you think public schools are doing poor kids any good? Especially in the inner cities where many poor black families live? I think any alternative is worth looking into to bring them out of poverty. Or you can just leave them to their devices.
- gambiting 5y ago>>Why should I pay for someone's crimes? It's such a stupid system. If they are murderers they should just receive the capital punishment. And if the crime is not murder, they can be put into factories where they are able produce something of value -- farming or whatever. If their business is not profitable it should at least reduce the taxpayer burden. God, I would hate to live in the system you're describing. And again, it's all me me me. Society wants to punish people with prison, so society should pay for it. Whether you personally want to is fortunately irrelevant. As for forcing people to work so they are not a burden on society - that's just slavery with extra steps. But oh wait, I forgot that US still does that. Nevermind then. >>if training them with skills will help the prison make money, why not? Because prisons should never ever ever be money making institutions in a functional society. I can't believe I actually have to say this. >>Let me ask you this first - do you think public schools are doing poor kids any good? Especially in the inner cities where many poor black families live? Of course they do, what are you on about.
- acuozzo 5y agoPeople like this always imagine that they'll be on the "good" side of such a system— That the private prisons wouldn't lobby to make all speeding illegal in order to increase the labor pool for profit. That they'll hear about the law change in time. That they'll never have to drive 5mph above the speed limit because they're running late. That they'll never be one of the slaves in the cyberpunk dystopia they're longing for.
- pedroma 5y ago>As for forcing people to work so they are not a burden on society - that's just slavery with extra steps. But oh wait, I forgot that US still does that. Nevermind then. This is just a difference in our morality I guess. I don't think prison should be a great place to live. They should be incentivized to leave prison. And they aren't treated as slaves, they are learning a trade and applying those skills. They should be paid a lower wage, have the option to send money to their families, and fund the prisons themselves to some degree. We already this to a lesser degree. Prisons just aren't doing this enough. >Because prisons should never ever ever be money making institutions in a functional society. I can't believe I actually have to say this. I don't understand why prisons should not make money. Why does there be distinctions for things that should or shouldn't make money? For things to function well, they need to be decently funded. Whether that's from you and me or them funding themselves. >Of course they do, what are you on about. Okay, then I guess we live in different realities if you think black kids are doing well in inner city public schools.