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I think a lot of the "anti-lab-leak" theory people were anti-lab-leak because they were really anti "china engineered a genetically targeted virus which only ta

I think a lot of the "anti-lab-leak" theory people were anti-lab-leak because they were really anti "china engineered a genetically targeted virus which only targets non-chinese in order to attack the rest of the world so the lizard people can take over". The idea of a lab leak causing a global pandemic which basically paralyzed the world for a year is conspiracy theory level crazy nightmare fuel. It doesn't mean it's not true. It doesn't mean it's on the same level as lizard-people.

pyuser583 5y ago
I mean accidents happen. The Chinese government has recently adopted a science policy that based quantity over quality. Think the genetically engineered babies. Illegally genetically engineering babies is about as far out there as it gets. But it happeneded.
- justicezyx 5y ago
  > The Chinese government has recently adopted a science policy that based quantity over quality. I have no idea what is the reference here. Quantity and quality were emphasized constantly in any nation-wide policy making. I was growing up in China for 24 years, I never sensed any emphasis on quantity over quality. To give an recent example, China has created so-called "future technology institute" for cutting edge fundamental researches [0]. That's aiming the most advanced technology research. > Think the genetically engineered babies. Illegally genetically engineering babies is about as far out there as it gets. The scientist, Jiankui He, who claimed that he had created the first human genetically edited babies [1] was widely criticized in mainland China [2] (in Chinese, Baidu's copycat of Wikipedia). Mr. He was later sentenced to 3 years prison, and 3M RMB fine. His collaborators were sentenced to prison time as well [3]. Mr. He was a rogue scientist at best. Your statement are connecting a statement of China values quantity over quality and gene editing human baby, I don't see the connection here, even if the the first statement was true (which itself were not). [0] http://www.xinhuanet.com/politics/2021-05/26/c_1127495262.htm http://www.xinhuanet.com/politics/2021-05/26/c_1127495262.ht... [1] https://www.technologyreview.com/2019/04/18/239297/the-scientist-who-created-crispr-babies-is-on-times-most-influential-list-but/ https://www.technologyreview.com/2019/04/18/239297/the-scien... [2] https://baike.baidu.com/item/%E8%B4%BA%E5%BB%BA%E5%A5%8E/2971172#6 https://baike.baidu.com/item/%E8%B4%BA%E5%BB%BA%E5%A5%8E/297... [3] http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/2019-12/30/c_138666754.htm http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/2019-12/30/c_138666754.htm

pyuser583 5y ago

I mean accidents happen. The Chinese government has recently adopted a science policy that based quantity over quality. Think the genetically engineered babies. Illegally genetically engineering babies is about as far out there as it gets. But it happeneded.

justicezyx 5y ago
> The Chinese government has recently adopted a science policy that based quantity over quality. I have no idea what is the reference here. Quantity and quality were emphasized constantly in any nation-wide policy making. I was growing up in China for 24 years, I never sensed any emphasis on quantity over quality. To give an recent example, China has created so-called "future technology institute" for cutting edge fundamental researches [0]. That's aiming the most advanced technology research. > Think the genetically engineered babies. Illegally genetically engineering babies is about as far out there as it gets. The scientist, Jiankui He, who claimed that he had created the first human genetically edited babies [1] was widely criticized in mainland China [2] (in Chinese, Baidu's copycat of Wikipedia). Mr. He was later sentenced to 3 years prison, and 3M RMB fine. His collaborators were sentenced to prison time as well [3]. Mr. He was a rogue scientist at best. Your statement are connecting a statement of China values quantity over quality and gene editing human baby, I don't see the connection here, even if the the first statement was true (which itself were not). [0] http://www.xinhuanet.com/politics/2021-05/26/c_1127495262.htm http://www.xinhuanet.com/politics/2021-05/26/c_1127495262.ht... [1] https://www.technologyreview.com/2019/04/18/239297/the-scientist-who-created-crispr-babies-is-on-times-most-influential-list-but/ https://www.technologyreview.com/2019/04/18/239297/the-scien... [2] https://baike.baidu.com/item/%E8%B4%BA%E5%BB%BA%E5%A5%8E/2971172#6 https://baike.baidu.com/item/%E8%B4%BA%E5%BB%BA%E5%A5%8E/297... [3] http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/2019-12/30/c_138666754.htm http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/2019-12/30/c_138666754.htm