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Thanks for speaking this out loud. I've been feeling the same thing. What's weird is I've been having identical conversations with people from multiple US state

Thanks for speaking this out loud. I've been feeling the same thing. What's weird is I've been having identical conversations with people from multiple US states and several European countries. There used to be an enormous gap between people from different areas and countries, each existing in their own cultural bubble. Now that's changed, and I'm not talking about "closer" I'm talking "the exact same." Our opinions have always been easily shaped by the media, mass entertainment and political campaigning. But lately it seems like there's less an ocean of information and more like a small puddle we're all trying to drink from at once. At the same time, the Overton Window seems to be slamming shut. I have been suspecting this has all been a dress rehearsal for the societal changes that are coming soon to address climate change, a sort of "powering up" of the collective consciousness.

nfoz 5y ago
I agree and have experienced what you wrote, except I have no idea what your last paragraph means. What are you referring to / talking about? It feels like maybe an example of the phenomenon we're talking about lol
- dougmwne 5y ago
  What I mean is to really address climate change all 8 billion of us are going to have to come together and make huge changes to our lives and each make personal sacrifices for the greater good. There will be new government mandates and it will affect how we live and work. There will be a huge social pressure to conform and a huge backlash. But we will have no choice because our environment will have changed to be more dangerous to our survival. Sounds a bit like the last year, doesn't it?
  - ianai 5y ago
    Society definitely needs to learn the internet is not the end all and be all. Take it with a large grain of salt unless you’re literally reading peer reviewed articles from reputable sources. Or it’s like a cooking recipe that you can verify for yourself and the stakes of being wrong are low. Even news should only be taken as a springboard for what’s going on.
  - skinkestek 5y ago
    Please take all that with a grain of salt everyone: comments like this is for me a good signal that this whole climate change thing is just a front for something else. Please note: I have no shares in fossil companies, I work for railway companies, I buy my stuff used and reuse and sort waste so much my wife gets crazy. So I'm almost there already but for other reasons: I belive in ecology. Not wasting wildlife areas. Not polluting. Climate? Anthropogenic changes? Look at a globe. Put your fingers at the oil fields. Then think that all CO2 from these fields has to be spread out thin across the whole rest of the globe. Or do something else: try to ask someone about some real numbers. I've been interested in those numbers. I never get any numbers. I get dismissed rudely for using the "Just Asking Questions" tactic, a tactic I didn't know until I was told that I used it. The only number I get is 2500 infallible scientists and as far as I now know a fair number of them weren't scientists but authors etc.
    - ryanwaggoner 5y ago
      https://www.ipcc.ch/ https://www.ipcc.ch/
pessimizer 5y ago
There used to be a lot of media, with a lot of different motivations. Now there are only a couple of major companies running most of it, and a small number of sources that everyone else rewrites.

nfoz 5y ago

I agree and have experienced what you wrote, except I have no idea what your last paragraph means. What are you referring to / talking about? It feels like maybe an example of the phenomenon we're talking about lol

dougmwne 5y ago
What I mean is to really address climate change all 8 billion of us are going to have to come together and make huge changes to our lives and each make personal sacrifices for the greater good. There will be new government mandates and it will affect how we live and work. There will be a huge social pressure to conform and a huge backlash. But we will have no choice because our environment will have changed to be more dangerous to our survival. Sounds a bit like the last year, doesn't it?
- ianai 5y ago
  Society definitely needs to learn the internet is not the end all and be all. Take it with a large grain of salt unless you’re literally reading peer reviewed articles from reputable sources. Or it’s like a cooking recipe that you can verify for yourself and the stakes of being wrong are low. Even news should only be taken as a springboard for what’s going on.
- skinkestek 5y ago
  Please take all that with a grain of salt everyone: comments like this is for me a good signal that this whole climate change thing is just a front for something else. Please note: I have no shares in fossil companies, I work for railway companies, I buy my stuff used and reuse and sort waste so much my wife gets crazy. So I'm almost there already but for other reasons: I belive in ecology. Not wasting wildlife areas. Not polluting. Climate? Anthropogenic changes? Look at a globe. Put your fingers at the oil fields. Then think that all CO2 from these fields has to be spread out thin across the whole rest of the globe. Or do something else: try to ask someone about some real numbers. I've been interested in those numbers. I never get any numbers. I get dismissed rudely for using the "Just Asking Questions" tactic, a tactic I didn't know until I was told that I used it. The only number I get is 2500 infallible scientists and as far as I now know a fair number of them weren't scientists but authors etc.
  - ryanwaggoner 5y ago
    https://www.ipcc.ch/ https://www.ipcc.ch/

pessimizer 5y ago

There used to be a lot of media, with a lot of different motivations. Now there are only a couple of major companies running most of it, and a small number of sources that everyone else rewrites.