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> More critically, you have a higher standard of every random article in every newspaper than you do of agencies actually responsible. Which is truly dystopian.

> More critically, you have a higher standard of every random article in every newspaper than you do of agencies actually responsible. Which is truly dystopian. > But you find issue with the media. > Incredible. The HN topic is about the media, so I'm talking about the media. > Speaking of which, Trump's "travel ban" (that wasn't a travel ban) was the single action taken after the virus was already spreading uncontrolled in NY, Washington State, and Europe. It did nothing to restrict US citizens traveling to and from the affected areas unrestrained, which thousands continued to do, even if we believed it would be remotely effective at that point I'm not defending Trump. I'm pointing out media hypocrisy. What did they do? Call the travel ban racist. Their behaviour has been very partisan, often at the expense of the truth. Exhibit A: the lab leak theory in the OP.

defaultname 5y ago
There is zero disguising the intent of your comment. The bit about Pelosi "dancing" was particularly telling. There are a number of other replies that come straight from MAGA-verse, full of outrageous lies but that is where US politics are right now. The US had a catastrophically poor response under the prior administration. That wasn't because of the media. It wasn't because of Nancy Pelosi. It wasn't because people dismissed theories by racists and imbeciles (the "lab leak" theory was overwhelmingly put forward by the absolute slugs of humanity, so there isn't a lot of surprise that it got smeared along with it, however unfortunate). This whole "see, we wuz right!" thing is a bit bizarre given that no, people didn't ignore evidence early on. They ignored a theory based upon literally nothing, generally put forward by people arguing that it was somehow weaponized and intentional. If there is evidence it should be pursued, but that doesn't give credence to hysterical conspiracies. Again, it is remarkable reading your comment and then understanding that you're decrying "partisan" positions. It goes beyond irony.
- jimmygrapes 5y ago
  Your unconditional hatred is showing.
  - defaultname 5y ago
    It is very conditional. I make no bones about the fact that I absolutely despise the cult of stupidity that has afflicted the United States. It is the downfall of the nation. There is a paradox that the "MAGA" crowd is the greatest setback to US achievement in centuries and still will likely destroy the country within the decade. So yeah, I _hate_ those people with every fiber of my being. It is hilarious that this thread is full of pearl clutchers who gasp and groan about how unfair this is, they're just patrons of the truth and non-partisan fairness...and then you look at their history, and they are precisely what you expected them to be. Antiscience cretins who put forth the most absurdly disingenuous nonsense purely for an audience of other cultists.
- Dma54rhs 5y ago
  Incredible comment, is this is the level of discourse now in America?
  - Moodles 5y ago
    Yeah, incredible. He knows nothing about me except what I wrote above and he's convinced I'm from the "MAGA-verse".
    - mcphage 5y ago
      > There are a number of other replies that come straight from MAGA-verse
      - Moodles 5y ago
        Here's a tip: stop saying shit like "MAGA-verse" and try to talk to people, assuming they're good human beings with honest intentions.
        mcphage 5y ago
        I’m quoting the person you’re talking about. You claimed they’re saying you’re from the magaverse, when they were explicitly referring to "other comments".
        Moodles 5y ago
        I don't care whether the comment/insult was directed at me. My tip still applies, my man.
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- Moodles 5y ago
  The intent of my comment was to point out the media's bias in calling out and fighting everything from one side at the expense of the truth, but hiding and underreporting anything negative from their side. That's all. I don't care to talk about which administration is right or wrong about specific issues, but you seem intent to go down that road and you've convinced yourself I'm from the "MAGA-verse".
- tablespoon 5y ago
  > This whole "see, we wuz right!" thing is a bit bizarre given that no, people didn't ignore evidence early on. They ignored a theory based upon literally nothing, generally put forward by people arguing that it was somehow weaponized and intentional. If there is evidence it should be pursued, but that doesn't give credence to hysterical conspiracies. It's not so much that they just ignored the theory, but that they made it taboo. Now, I empathize somewhat with the people who made it taboo (I probably helped in an amateur capacity, throwing the baby out with the bathwater), but in retrospect it's embarrassing and one would have hoped the professionals would have done a better job.

defaultname 5y ago

There is zero disguising the intent of your comment. The bit about Pelosi "dancing" was particularly telling. There are a number of other replies that come straight from MAGA-verse, full of outrageous lies but that is where US politics are right now. The US had a catastrophically poor response under the prior administration. That wasn't because of the media. It wasn't because of Nancy Pelosi. It wasn't because people dismissed theories by racists and imbeciles (the "lab leak" theory was overwhelmingly put forward by the absolute slugs of humanity, so there isn't a lot of surprise that it got smeared along with it, however unfortunate). This whole "see, we wuz right!" thing is a bit bizarre given that no, people didn't ignore evidence early on. They ignored a theory based upon literally nothing, generally put forward by people arguing that it was somehow weaponized and intentional. If there is evidence it should be pursued, but that doesn't give credence to hysterical conspiracies. Again, it is remarkable reading your comment and then understanding that you're decrying "partisan" positions. It goes beyond irony.

jimmygrapes 5y ago
Your unconditional hatred is showing.
- defaultname 5y ago
  It is very conditional. I make no bones about the fact that I absolutely despise the cult of stupidity that has afflicted the United States. It is the downfall of the nation. There is a paradox that the "MAGA" crowd is the greatest setback to US achievement in centuries and still will likely destroy the country within the decade. So yeah, I _hate_ those people with every fiber of my being. It is hilarious that this thread is full of pearl clutchers who gasp and groan about how unfair this is, they're just patrons of the truth and non-partisan fairness...and then you look at their history, and they are precisely what you expected them to be. Antiscience cretins who put forth the most absurdly disingenuous nonsense purely for an audience of other cultists.
Dma54rhs 5y ago
Incredible comment, is this is the level of discourse now in America?
- Moodles 5y ago
  Yeah, incredible. He knows nothing about me except what I wrote above and he's convinced I'm from the "MAGA-verse".
  - mcphage 5y ago
    > There are a number of other replies that come straight from MAGA-verse
    - Moodles 5y ago
      Here's a tip: stop saying shit like "MAGA-verse" and try to talk to people, assuming they're good human beings with honest intentions.
      - mcphage 5y ago
        I’m quoting the person you’re talking about. You claimed they’re saying you’re from the magaverse, when they were explicitly referring to "other comments".
        Moodles 5y ago
        I don't care whether the comment/insult was directed at me. My tip still applies, my man.
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Moodles 5y ago
The intent of my comment was to point out the media's bias in calling out and fighting everything from one side at the expense of the truth, but hiding and underreporting anything negative from their side. That's all. I don't care to talk about which administration is right or wrong about specific issues, but you seem intent to go down that road and you've convinced yourself I'm from the "MAGA-verse".
tablespoon 5y ago
> This whole "see, we wuz right!" thing is a bit bizarre given that no, people didn't ignore evidence early on. They ignored a theory based upon literally nothing, generally put forward by people arguing that it was somehow weaponized and intentional. If there is evidence it should be pursued, but that doesn't give credence to hysterical conspiracies. It's not so much that they just ignored the theory, but that they made it taboo. Now, I empathize somewhat with the people who made it taboo (I probably helped in an amateur capacity, throwing the baby out with the bathwater), but in retrospect it's embarrassing and one would have hoped the professionals would have done a better job.