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2008 was 13 years ago. The past 13 years in the UAE have been nothing like even the past 30 years in the west. The difference between now and 2008 is incomprehe

2008 was 13 years ago. The past 13 years in the UAE have been nothing like even the past 30 years in the west. The difference between now and 2008 is incomprehensible, it’s simply not the same country. In the past week I’ve visited a gay bar in a big Dubai hotel, the local synagogue and ate with the local Rabbi at a kosher restaurant in one of the top Dubai hotels (There’s one in the Burj Khalifa(!) and another at the Zabeel Saray) . In 2008 these things could’ve been unimaginable, today it’s normal. The rulers are well aware that they can’t survive unless they modernize and at the very least catch up with the west. > Also I have no reason to believe those rape laws are not still enforced the same way. They literally don’t exist anymore, and hadn’t been enforced for years before they were struck off anyway.

eloff 5y ago
I understand you wish that to be true in the UAE, but that's not the law. Here's a case from Nov 2016: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/british-woman-tourist-arrested-charged-jail-dubai-gang-rape-extra-marital-sex-hotel-uae-police-a7420616.html https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/british-woma... Some quotes from the article: > It’s against the law to live together, or to share the same hotel room, with someone of the opposite sex to whom you aren’t married or closely related > The burden of proof required for rape under the UAE’s interpretation of sharia law – a confession from the rapist or witness statements from four adult men – means that cases that reach court are heavily skewed in the defendant’s favour and are frequently dismissed or turned around to prosecute the alleged victim. > Ms Stirling said the UAE has a long history of penalising rape victims. “We have been involved with several cases in the past where this has happened, and we work with the lawyers and families and have campaigned to change attitudes in the police and judiciary,” she added. > “The horrible case at hand shows that it is still not safe for victims to report these crimes to the police without the risk of suffering a double punishment.”
- ryanlol 5y ago
  2016 was 5 years ago. These laws have been struck since then. And in any case, we don’t know the specifics of what happened there.
  - eloff 5y ago
    Burden of proof is on you. I backed up my claims.
    - ryanlol 5y ago
      Don’t be lazy, this is easy to google. https://gulfnews.com/uae/government/uae-introduces-changes-to-criminal-civil-codes-and-inheritance-law-1.1604737879021 https://gulfnews.com/uae/government/uae-introduces-changes-t... https://apnews.com/article/dubai-united-arab-emirates-honor-killings-travel-islam-bce74c423897dc77c7beb72e4f51a23a https://apnews.com/article/dubai-united-arab-emirates-honor-... https://www.thenationalnews.com/uae/government/uae-sets-out-legal-overhaul-of-personal-and-family-law-1.1107152 https://www.thenationalnews.com/uae/government/uae-sets-out-...

eloff 5y ago

I understand you wish that to be true in the UAE, but that's not the law. Here's a case from Nov 2016: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/british-woman-tourist-arrested-charged-jail-dubai-gang-rape-extra-marital-sex-hotel-uae-police-a7420616.html https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/british-woma... Some quotes from the article: > It’s against the law to live together, or to share the same hotel room, with someone of the opposite sex to whom you aren’t married or closely related > The burden of proof required for rape under the UAE’s interpretation of sharia law – a confession from the rapist or witness statements from four adult men – means that cases that reach court are heavily skewed in the defendant’s favour and are frequently dismissed or turned around to prosecute the alleged victim. > Ms Stirling said the UAE has a long history of penalising rape victims. “We have been involved with several cases in the past where this has happened, and we work with the lawyers and families and have campaigned to change attitudes in the police and judiciary,” she added. > “The horrible case at hand shows that it is still not safe for victims to report these crimes to the police without the risk of suffering a double punishment.”

ryanlol 5y ago
2016 was 5 years ago. These laws have been struck since then. And in any case, we don’t know the specifics of what happened there.
- eloff 5y ago
  Burden of proof is on you. I backed up my claims.
  - ryanlol 5y ago
    Don’t be lazy, this is easy to google. https://gulfnews.com/uae/government/uae-introduces-changes-to-criminal-civil-codes-and-inheritance-law-1.1604737879021 https://gulfnews.com/uae/government/uae-introduces-changes-t... https://apnews.com/article/dubai-united-arab-emirates-honor-killings-travel-islam-bce74c423897dc77c7beb72e4f51a23a https://apnews.com/article/dubai-united-arab-emirates-honor-... https://www.thenationalnews.com/uae/government/uae-sets-out-legal-overhaul-of-personal-and-family-law-1.1107152 https://www.thenationalnews.com/uae/government/uae-sets-out-...