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AFAIK, If you have a Tesla already, it will still use Radar. Model S/X also keep Radar. It's being removed from Model 3/Y. I placed an order in early April and

AFAIK, If you have a Tesla already, it will still use Radar. Model S/X also keep Radar. It's being removed from Model 3/Y. I placed an order in early April and I'm kind of miffed that (1) my delivery was delayed (my original order was supposed to be 4-8 weeks, I'm currently slated for ~10 weeks) (2) there seems to be supply chain issues, but the company denies it (3) after not shipping in cars for 2 months, they announce that radar is deprecated, and then suddenly people start taking deliveries. My biggest fear is that Autopilot won't work as well as the Radar equipped cars and I won't know until 2-3 months down the line which will both affect the value of the car and part of the reason I bought it.

aaomidi 5y ago
They said they're going to stop using the radar in the existing cars too.
- nemothekid 5y ago
  Musk has been saying they were going to transition to all-vision for a couple years now. It's not a question of if they are going to stop, it's first, is the vision system ready or on par with radar? If it's not, then current vehicles (and, also _new_ S/X models) still get the current experience. I personally don't care if its vision, radar, or if Elon himself remote controls the car from his house. I'm well aware of the current limitations of the software and I'd like to purchase the car knowing what I know. Having the radar come out is like buying the FSD promise; it might work next month, or it might be next year; and seeing how Autopilot was one of the features I was looking forward to, that sucks. At the same time, there's little recourse if you want to buy an Electric car other than moving up to an S/X (which are currently 3-6 months out and 40-50k more).
mbreese 5y ago
I really hope the radar is still going to be active if you have the hardware. If they don't, I'd expect lawyers to be involved sooner rather than later. I know they revamped the production of Model 3's just after Q1. In late March, the wait times were 2-12 weeks. However, this was a big overestimate. If you had an order in then, you could have gotten in within 3-4 weeks (late April/early May). But this production change was for a change in the interior trim. It looks like the radar change is different. Given the fact that they already had a production change at the end of Q1, I highly suspect that dropping radar was a supply chain issue. This was probably planned for a while, but the supply issues may have forced the timeline. I'll be very curious to know they will support the two systems going forward. Hopefully the radar-less system is just as accurate, but I'd be happier if there were multiple systems to make these decisions.
bengale 5y ago
I’d be cancelling my order.

aaomidi 5y ago

They said they're going to stop using the radar in the existing cars too.

nemothekid 5y ago
Musk has been saying they were going to transition to all-vision for a couple years now. It's not a question of if they are going to stop, it's first, is the vision system ready or on par with radar? If it's not, then current vehicles (and, also _new_ S/X models) still get the current experience. I personally don't care if its vision, radar, or if Elon himself remote controls the car from his house. I'm well aware of the current limitations of the software and I'd like to purchase the car knowing what I know. Having the radar come out is like buying the FSD promise; it might work next month, or it might be next year; and seeing how Autopilot was one of the features I was looking forward to, that sucks. At the same time, there's little recourse if you want to buy an Electric car other than moving up to an S/X (which are currently 3-6 months out and 40-50k more).

mbreese 5y ago

I really hope the radar is still going to be active if you have the hardware. If they don't, I'd expect lawyers to be involved sooner rather than later. I know they revamped the production of Model 3's just after Q1. In late March, the wait times were 2-12 weeks. However, this was a big overestimate. If you had an order in then, you could have gotten in within 3-4 weeks (late April/early May). But this production change was for a change in the interior trim. It looks like the radar change is different. Given the fact that they already had a production change at the end of Q1, I highly suspect that dropping radar was a supply chain issue. This was probably planned for a while, but the supply issues may have forced the timeline. I'll be very curious to know they will support the two systems going forward. Hopefully the radar-less system is just as accurate, but I'd be happier if there were multiple systems to make these decisions.

bengale 5y ago

I’d be cancelling my order.