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Who is saying all is lost and that the world will be uninhabitable? People are saying bad things will happen, potentially catastrophic things for those directly

by notJim 5y ago

Who is saying all is lost and that the world will be uninhabitable? People are saying bad things will happen, potentially catastrophic things for those directly affected. Some of these things may create large social challenges. What's wrong with acknowledging that? The fact that it makes you uncomfortable to hear doesn't mean it's not true.

spacemark 5y ago
Those phrases are taken directly from comments in this thread. I agree that we should discuss all possible scenarios. But a lot of the extreme scenarios being parroted are just bonkers, scientifically speaking.
- monocasa 5y ago
  A ctrl-F for 'uninhabitable' only gives this sub thread and someone saying that some countries (rather than the whole world as you've stated) will be uninhabitable. Which is true.
- notJim 5y ago
  You are misinterpreting what people are saying. I searched for "uninhabitable", and the comment you're referring to says particular places will be uninhabitable. Not the world. This is true, according to scientific predictions. I searched for "gun", and the comment you're referring to is saying that we are already locked into a great deal of warming due to lag and knock-on effects. This is also true according to scientific predictions. I searched for "all is lost" and didn't find anything.
  - spacemark 5y ago
    Meh, I don't really have a dog in this fight, but the tone of this thread is pretty clear. First or second-level comments from the first page most upvoted responses. There are unsubstantiated claims, needlessly hyperbolic descriptors, even a suggestion to blow up the moon. If this thread isn't perplexing, it's at least entertaining. > It looks bleak. There are fewer and fewer options remaining. > the IPCC reports/estimates excluded arctic methane emissions...which we a) now know are definitely happening and b) are just catastrophic positive feedback loops. The gun seems to have been fired. > yeah, the n-th order effects like the siberian ice melting away into methane emissions equivalent to 100 years of 2020 CO2 output will just completely obliterate any efforts at mitigating new emissions. > Question: How do you folks deal with the hopelessness of it all? > Can we just gradually boost Earth a little farther (on average) from the sun? Or we could blow up the moon, reducing tidal fluctuation, and thus coastal flooding. Plus the debris would reduce sunlight imparting a cooling effect.

by notJim 5y ago

spacemark 5y ago

Those phrases are taken directly from comments in this thread. I agree that we should discuss all possible scenarios. But a lot of the extreme scenarios being parroted are just bonkers, scientifically speaking.

monocasa 5y ago
A ctrl-F for 'uninhabitable' only gives this sub thread and someone saying that some countries (rather than the whole world as you've stated) will be uninhabitable. Which is true.
notJim 5y ago
You are misinterpreting what people are saying. I searched for "uninhabitable", and the comment you're referring to says particular places will be uninhabitable. Not the world. This is true, according to scientific predictions. I searched for "gun", and the comment you're referring to is saying that we are already locked into a great deal of warming due to lag and knock-on effects. This is also true according to scientific predictions. I searched for "all is lost" and didn't find anything.
- spacemark 5y ago
  Meh, I don't really have a dog in this fight, but the tone of this thread is pretty clear. First or second-level comments from the first page most upvoted responses. There are unsubstantiated claims, needlessly hyperbolic descriptors, even a suggestion to blow up the moon. If this thread isn't perplexing, it's at least entertaining. > It looks bleak. There are fewer and fewer options remaining. > the IPCC reports/estimates excluded arctic methane emissions...which we a) now know are definitely happening and b) are just catastrophic positive feedback loops. The gun seems to have been fired. > yeah, the n-th order effects like the siberian ice melting away into methane emissions equivalent to 100 years of 2020 CO2 output will just completely obliterate any efforts at mitigating new emissions. > Question: How do you folks deal with the hopelessness of it all? > Can we just gradually boost Earth a little farther (on average) from the sun? Or we could blow up the moon, reducing tidal fluctuation, and thus coastal flooding. Plus the debris would reduce sunlight imparting a cooling effect.