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It requires a very high amount of naiveness to think this could solve the issue. Only thing that will help is education of children, so that they understand the
by antirez 5y ago
It requires a very high amount of naiveness to think this could solve the issue. Only thing that will help is education of children, so that they understand their place in the world, to accept themselves, that the aesthetic standards provided in social networks are very high (but yet, as a central European my sensibility is a bit different than the one in other places -- I would suggest that this must be a stimulus to avoid gaining weight, to train, and so forth), that random appreciation in terms of "likes" is not a sensible measure of how much a person is worth, and so forth.
- KittenInABox 5y agoI doubt that the only thing that will help is education. Education cannot win over something where other, more educated people are putting full-time careers in psychological hijacking of children. A 12 year old doesn't stand a chance no matter how much they accept themselves. This stuff needs to be regulated like cigarettes.
- antirez 5y agoI don't agree because the contact with real teenagers at school and other places where children meet was as brutal as it is today even in the past. Now there are new elements, that is, the fact you have to confront yourself with a lager audience of people and you can see unreal standards. But even at school with 400 children there will be the extremely pretty, the extremely good at sports, and so forth. And what is likes in social networks, in the real world translates to certain folks getting all the attention and other being regarded as trash. I think that certain problems that are embedded in being humans in a modern society are now all attributed to social networks, but this is not the case. Similarly people already used to vote for crazy folks: we in Italy had Berlusconi in '90s. Before there was Hitler and Mussolini. Similarly to think that US got Trump because social networks is a simplification that fails to capture reality.
- lupire 5y agoSchool bullying is bad, but scaling it up to global bullying is worse.
- anthk 5y agoAlso you bullied teens can get potential help from late bloomers who were bullied in early years; thus, placing the bully in from of their moronic supporters as a big loser.
- 908B64B197 5y ago> Now there are new elements, that is, the fact you have to confront yourself with a lager audience of people and you can see unreal standards. You nailed it here. Social media heavily rewards extreme outliers.
- electronica 5y agoMore regulation is the silliest answer I’ve heard to this issue. Thank you. A 12 year old who self accepts to its truest form isn’t concerned with the baseless issues of ‘likes’. As with any other adult who self accepts.
- pedro1976 5y agoI agree. SM operates on a subconscious level by exploiting all kinds of cognitive biases. Rational thinking won't solve this issue for the majority
- vikiomega9 5y agoI wonder if that education should also explicitly include how likes, ads and attention are correlated. Making them understand their place in the world is good but SM is a different take on that age-old problem.
- willcipriano 5y agoHave the kids make a post to see who can get the most likes over a week, the teacher does a lame one as well ("read books this summer!"). Nobody likes the teachers post, until the last day when teacher buys 1000 likes for the post, blowing everyone away for $5. Now the kids know its all made up and the points don't matter.
- 908B64B197 5y ago> Now the kids know its all made up and the points don't matter. Careful, they might start questioning whether standardized testing can be gamed as well.
- fooker 5y agoThat will be a fantastic outcome.
- egypturnash 5y agoHonestly given the way I've heard teachers feel about those, good.
- CornCobs 5y agoWelcome to whose like is it anyway - the show where everything is made up and the points don't matter
- cauliflower2718 5y agoDepending on the age of the kids, I wouldn't be surprised if some of the kids had bought likes, too.
- ______- 5y ago> that random appreciation in terms of "likes" is not a sensible measure of how much a person is worth I suspect many of the so called 'influencer' accounts buy likes and followers. A quick Google for 'buy instagram followers' leads you down a rabbithole of merchants willing to sell you followers and likes. The thing to notice is: when you've gained traction and are over 10,000 followers, the followers that you do buy, become un-noticeable, because there's so much noise on the platform (no-one notices). This is why new accounts that suddenly have 1000 followers in 7 days is a red flag.
- tomnipotent 5y ago> called 'influencer' accounts buy likes and followers An entire cottage industry exists of boutique firms that specialize in creating bullshit content for influencers. You can see it in spades when you look at "Tagged" photos, and see fan accounts for people with 10k followers with video and image collages. There's also the big "agencies" that rep larger influencers that practice the same tactics, maybe with just a little more finesse.
- enterdev 5y agoIt's not just children that are negatively affected by these apps. It's everyone. The only way not to be affected is to not use them.
- obiShawnKenobi 5y agoThe only winning move is not to play
- ALittleLight 5y agoI don't feel negatively affected by Instagram. I like to see pictures of my family. All of the female members of my family (who are old enough) have accounts to comment even if they don't post. I consider it lucky there is a free photo sharing solution that everyone has landed on.
- enterdev 5y agoWhat do you all see on your explore tab?
- passivate 5y agoYou must have missed it, the article itself says its not going to solve the problem. >In its testing and research, Instagram said that removing likes had little impact on behaviour or wellbeing - after concerns that using the platform could be linked to insecurity and poor mental health. >Despite this, Mr Mosseri said Instagram - which is owned by Facebook - introduced the feature to make “people feel good about the time they spend” on the platform. “I do think there’s more to do in this space,” he added. “The more we can give people the ability to shape Instagram and Facebook into what's good for them, the better.”
- antirez 5y agoMy comment was referring to the feature itself, I see that the article kinda try to put the things in perspective, but not as strongly and sharply I think should be done.
- passivate 5y agoAh okay, your comment sounded like someone claimed it would fix the problem - but the article didn't say that - so I don't quite know who you were referring to!! In any case, no biggie. :)