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Tell me where it is completely free. And I don't mean paid for via taxes.

gambiting 5y ago
No offense, but that's such a weird way of looking at it. Even in the US every reasonable adult would say that driving on public roads is free, right? But roads are maintained from taxes so how dare you call them free!!! It's the same thing here - other countries just pay for their citizens giving birth from taxes. The cost to you as a citizen is zero. No it's not free, someone pays for it. But I never used the word free anywhere, so I feel like you want to have an argument for the argument sake.
- rootusrootus 5y ago
  > every reasonable adult would say that driving on public roads is free, right? No? I certainly don't. I'm constantly aware of how much we don't spend on roads. Any conversation trashing the US for not having healthcare that is free-at-point-of-sale is meaningless without discussing the larger system. What can I say, I get tired of Europeans trashing the US using singular metrics as if they're a meaningful reflection of policy. You want to get into a more interesting conversation, let's talk about how the US citizenry is essentially subsidizing the universal healthcare that many other countries enjoy. That's not some political talking point, either, it's legitimate.
  - gambiting 5y ago
    >>No? I certainly don't. I'm constantly aware of how much we don't spend on roads. Let me ask this then - is there anything in the world you would call free, or do you avoid the word out of principle? >>Any conversation trashing the US for not having healthcare that is free-at-point-of-sale is meaningless without discussing the larger system. I think you are purposefully trying to drag me into a discussion about a point I didn't make, I merely expressed surprise at the fact that United States of America, the wealthiest nation in the world, cannot even pay for the births of its own citizens. No statement anywhere about healthcare as such. If you want to read into it in my comment, then that's on you. >>You want to get into a more interesting conversation, let's talk about how the US citizenry is essentially subsidizing the universal healthcare that many other countries enjoy. Let's have that discussion then, please, I'm curious to hear your thoughts.

No offense, but that's such a weird way of looking at it. Even in the US every reasonable adult would say that driving on public roads is free, right? But roads are maintained from taxes so how dare you call them free!!! It's the same thing here - other countries just pay for their citizens giving birth from taxes. The cost to you as a citizen is zero. No it's not free, someone pays for it. But I never used the word free anywhere, so I feel like you want to have an argument for the argument sake.

rootusrootus 5y ago
> every reasonable adult would say that driving on public roads is free, right? No? I certainly don't. I'm constantly aware of how much we don't spend on roads. Any conversation trashing the US for not having healthcare that is free-at-point-of-sale is meaningless without discussing the larger system. What can I say, I get tired of Europeans trashing the US using singular metrics as if they're a meaningful reflection of policy. You want to get into a more interesting conversation, let's talk about how the US citizenry is essentially subsidizing the universal healthcare that many other countries enjoy. That's not some political talking point, either, it's legitimate.
- gambiting 5y ago
  >>No? I certainly don't. I'm constantly aware of how much we don't spend on roads. Let me ask this then - is there anything in the world you would call free, or do you avoid the word out of principle? >>Any conversation trashing the US for not having healthcare that is free-at-point-of-sale is meaningless without discussing the larger system. I think you are purposefully trying to drag me into a discussion about a point I didn't make, I merely expressed surprise at the fact that United States of America, the wealthiest nation in the world, cannot even pay for the births of its own citizens. No statement anywhere about healthcare as such. If you want to read into it in my comment, then that's on you. >>You want to get into a more interesting conversation, let's talk about how the US citizenry is essentially subsidizing the universal healthcare that many other countries enjoy. Let's have that discussion then, please, I'm curious to hear your thoughts.