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I am really really interested in knowing the root cause. I am really concerned by agile, and start-up hipster culture creeping into critical infrastructure comp

by _nnv7 5y ago

I am really really interested in knowing the root cause. I am really concerned by agile, and start-up hipster culture creeping into critical infrastructure companies. There are so many patterns(event driven, CQRS) in recent microservices architecture, which are gaining popularity and people have been using them without realizing the cons and the need for them.

duxup 5y ago
>agile, and start-up hipster culture What does that even mean?
- _nnv7 5y ago
  Looks like people are really offended by this. Agile lately has been looked at this silver bullet for software engineering. I have worked both in Cisco and some good startups and in my humble opinion having fast paced development and high feature churn rate really is unsuitable for a bank and other infrastructure companies. Also by hipster, I mean that the banks don't have luxury to experiment with latest trends and the cool tools. They have to stick with the old proven methods.
  - duxup 5y ago
    I don't understand your perspective here. Debates about Agile have gone on for ages, that's not a 'lately' thing. I have no idea what 'hipster' has to do with banks and tools... or what you mean by 'old proven methods'.
    - _nnv7 5y ago
      Not looking for a debate myself :)
      - macintux 5y ago
        Making snarky comments about a common development methodology but not interested in debating the merits of the underlying complaint? I believe that’s called trolling.
        _nnv7 5y ago
        @macintux I did reply and explained my perspective clearly. Anymore than that will just not be constructive. From here on it will be just difference in opinion and no one will again anything. And if you think I am troll then not feeding a troll is the best thing to do right?
        mnpl 5y ago
        The complaint has been explained: Agile inevitably leads to shoddy, churn-oriented programming and only serves bullshit consultants and code slingers.
      - duxup 5y ago
        I was less interested in a debate as to what meaning you assign those terms. The way you use them seems like empty buz words.

by _nnv7 5y ago

duxup 5y ago

>agile, and start-up hipster culture What does that even mean?

_nnv7 5y ago
Looks like people are really offended by this. Agile lately has been looked at this silver bullet for software engineering. I have worked both in Cisco and some good startups and in my humble opinion having fast paced development and high feature churn rate really is unsuitable for a bank and other infrastructure companies. Also by hipster, I mean that the banks don't have luxury to experiment with latest trends and the cool tools. They have to stick with the old proven methods.
- duxup 5y ago
  I don't understand your perspective here. Debates about Agile have gone on for ages, that's not a 'lately' thing. I have no idea what 'hipster' has to do with banks and tools... or what you mean by 'old proven methods'.
  - _nnv7 5y ago
    Not looking for a debate myself :)
    - macintux 5y ago
      Making snarky comments about a common development methodology but not interested in debating the merits of the underlying complaint? I believe that’s called trolling.
      - _nnv7 5y ago
        @macintux I did reply and explained my perspective clearly. Anymore than that will just not be constructive. From here on it will be just difference in opinion and no one will again anything. And if you think I am troll then not feeding a troll is the best thing to do right?
      - mnpl 5y ago
        The complaint has been explained: Agile inevitably leads to shoddy, churn-oriented programming and only serves bullshit consultants and code slingers.
    - duxup 5y ago
      I was less interested in a debate as to what meaning you assign those terms. The way you use them seems like empty buz words.