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25 Gbit/sec residential FTTH in Switzerland [German]
- jlelse 5y agoFor what do you need redidential 25 Gbit/sec? Just because you can? Honest question.
- znpy 5y ago"why do you need an automobile? carriages are perfectly fine"
- HPsquared 5y agoThe average person could easily tell the difference between an automobile and a carriage. Not so much the difference between 1 Gbps and 25 Gbps (for now at least). Latency is the more important issue, really.
- znpy 5y ago> (for now at least) that's the point, right there, the one you're missing. pushing speeds enable for new stuff to be done.
- mgerullis 5y agoOk, so around 20 years ago we were fine with 56k, what do you think we need in another 20 years? Unless you wanna put down new lines every handful of years this is actually a good investment into the future.
- awicz 5y agoI don't think this deserved to be down voted. While I can appreciate the idea that innovation drives advancement...I have the same honest question. Asked another way: are there any current fringe use cases for residential users to make use of this kind of bandwidth? *edit: ugh. Sorry, replied to the wrong comment.
- KeplerBoy 5y agoProbably the mentioned 25 Gbit/s. At least now nobody needs that at home. I'm not even sure how one would hook up a computer to such a fast connection. certainly not with conventional ethernet.
- znpy 5y ago2.5 gbps and 10 gbps ethernet is starting to appear in consumer-grade computers too, albeit mostly in either apple stuff or enthusiast grade gear.
- detaro 5y ago10G Ethernet at least is not unusual for enthusiast-type stuff, and with the hardcore crowd I wouldn't be surprised to see some 25/40/100G kit - and this is clearly a hardcore enthusiast offering for now. E.g. IMHO doesn't make much sense unless you are hosting stuff at home etc.
- franz899 5y agoI don't think we were ever "fine" with 56k, but I think we reached a good speed with 1Gb/s. It will be more than enough for most households until everything we do will scale up in resolution.
- mgerullis 5y agoWell, 1gig is still somewhat rare here in Germany. Unless you live in a large city or you are fine with 5G as your line, its basically a far-away dream
- jlelse 5y agoYes, I have 100/40 VDSL and it's honestly enough. How large should websites grow that I need 25 Gibt/s?
- LargoLasskhyfv 5y agoWhile I concure with that, there is more to the net than websites.
- MagnumOpus 5y agoGigabit is not needed for web browsing, but for: - cloud storage, sharing and backup - at 40Mbit a remote site feels like a slow thumb drive where copying a 1GB folder of an image or video project to the cloud takes 5 minutes, at 1Gbit it feels like a modern hard drive where that folder takes 10 seconds and doesn't interrupt your workflow - high res video streaming (3-4 people in your household streaming at 4K will overload your downlink at 100Mbit) - high res video conferencing (3-4 people in your household being in zoom calls at the same time will likely overload your uplink at 40Mbit)
- mgerullis 5y agoImagine being a streamer. You cannot stream 4K with that speed.
- zokier 5y agoDo you think the network gear will last 20 years?
- mgerullis 5y agoI believe the fibers themselves will. I mean most of the country (Germany) is still running on copper from the 50s.
- detaro 5y agoTheir response to that comment pretty much was "people ask that every time, and every time it turns out someone just needs to start offering it for things to happen"
- unixhero 5y agoYou are right about your question looking at the state of the matter right now. However residential broadband for Internet access does not have to be all about ingress and consumption. There is a future where egress and peer to peer traffic is just as viable. Having a network where the nodes are at 25gbit/sec would be wholesome to say it mildly, and ridiculously modernized to put it plainly.
- nairboon 5y agoto load all the ads and trackers when browsing the web, especially the video ads
- jlelse 5y agoThat's what I fear as well. Computers get more powerful -> programs waste more of that power. Internet gets faster -> websites grow in size as well.
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- nextweek2 5y agoTo help with latency. The line will be quieter for longer periods meaning less congestion. Meaning when you want something it won't need to wait it'll feel instant. Also, you'll have economy of scale. If every network kit was 25Gbit, then that gets cheaper for all. Also, the cost of installing is usually the most expensive part, not the hardware. Why no future proof for the next 40 years.
- giuliomagnifico 5y agoIt’s a great news but I’m a bit skeptical about the people (especially inside non working place) who can really have any benefit over 1 Gbbps connection at the moment. Due to Wi-Fi and Ethernet ports limits, but surely it’s future proof!
- op00to 5y agoHey - speak for yourself! I have a 10g network at home. My main pc, work laptop (docking station) and all my servers are on 10g. Less than $1000 for a 16 port sfp+ switch and cards. I regularly max out my 1gbps connection with backups and other data transfers, would love to go to 3 or 5 gbps!
- croon 5y ago> I regularly max out my 1gbps connection Regularly in frequency, sure, but how much on average? Would you notice if your backups took 1 hour instead of 10 minutes? A watercooler regularly maxes out its water input, but no one getting a drink would notice if it filled its tank by 1 oz/sec or 2.
- croon 5y agoI certainly wouldn't mind faster, but I honestly don't notice much benefit from 250/250 over the 100/100 Mbps I had before. But things certainly change and increasing capability always leads to someone using it for something (useless or not).
- dzhiurgis 5y agoIt seems that the other side rarely exceeds 100mbps, so it only matter when you either got many users or very specific workflow.
- bufferoverflow 5y agoWith many games approaching 100GB, I wouldn't mind 25 Gbps.
- thecopy 5y agoI have 4GBit ostensibly, in Switzerland. But my WiFi is not fast enough for me to test.
- LargoLasskhyfv 5y agoQuanta Costa?
- nairboon 5y agoabout 70$ per month
- LargoLasskhyfv 5y agoThat would be very affordable! (for the speed)
- zawerf 5y agoPeople who get this should donate their excess bandwidth to a "worthy" cause. For example e-hentai.org serve their images from a p2p system called hentai@home and their total network is only using ~4Gbit/sec: https://e-hentai.org/hentaiathome.php https://e-hentai.org/hentaiathome.php (or https://imgur.com/a/1H04buw https://imgur.com/a/1H04buw if you don't want to login)
- andreasley 5y agoNot only is it fast and inexpensive, it's also regular ethernet (no PON weirdness), so you can use any router you want – as long as it has an SFP28 port. ;)
- chrisMyzel 5y agoPeople over in Germany struggle to get access to Fiber AT ALL. This country is so much sold on dying technologies...