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As I noted, things aren't exactly as they appear [1]. Make no mistake, FOSS is under attack. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27299538 https://news.yc
by rasengan 5y ago
As I noted, things aren't exactly as they appear [1]. Make no mistake, FOSS is under attack.
[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27299538 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27299538
- tptacek 5y agoWhen a FOSS project updates its own website to clarify that they want nothing to do with you, we don't have wonder what's going on.
- rasengan 5y ago> When a FOSS project updates its own website to clarify that they want nothing to do with you, we don't have wonder what's going on. Yes. Edit: To be clear, what I'm pointing out is that it's not in fact entire projects that are trying to move, but instead, few people who have infiltrated many projects.
- ImPostingOnHN 5y agoWhich of those projects consider you to have the unilateral authority to decide how they govern themselves? Which of these communities individually selected you to be their guardian and protector and final say on self-governance?
- adreamingsoul 5y agoWhich projects have been infiltrated? Who are these people?
- pzj56 5y agoRight. The shadowy cabal of sinister operatives investing time and effort manipulating the extremely consequential decision of what chat technology a GPL tool substitutes for a staffed helpdesk just to tinkle in your cornflakes. Totally a plausible and reassuring take on things, that one. If there’s one thing we know with certainty about FOSS development, it’s that it takes place in a late-career le Carré novel and carries roughly the same stakes and supporting cast. Great read, Kojak. Couldn’t be that you terrify people and projects who are accustomed to an insignificant amount of churn in the way of things. Nope, it’s the GPLigans conspiring against you because everyone in free software apparently has nothing better to do than obstructing whatever glorious product hell it is you’re cooking for Freenode. Do you really have nobody in your life to call you on this shit?
- tptacek 5y agoFor example: Ubuntu has, for almost 10 years, had a whole "IRC council" to manage their IRC presence. They voted to leave Freenode. It was apparently unanimous.
- zatertip 5y agoThey infiltrated the whole Gentoo Council and persuaded them to vote unanimously to move. Better maskirovka than the KGB :-)
- pzj55 5y agoWith the passage of time I increasingly struggle believing that you are a real person or, at least, a person who has a minimal understanding of other people and how they operate. I say that as someone who hasn’t touched IRC in 16 years with, consequently, zero dog in this tussle, since your first inclination will likely be to call me one of “them”. Exit this drama pit before it consumes you. That goes for all involved: not just you, but foremost you. It’s IRC. You can love it and still have perspective.
- ImPostingOnHN 5y agoYour reply does not meaningfully address any of the points of the post it is replying to.
- bmlzootown 5y agoAnd what's more, the "proof" that he's pointing to is a commit from someone who hasn't contributed to said linked project since June 12th, 2015 (not counting the merging of pull requests). If I didn't know any better, I'd say that he has no meaningful response, so he instead diverts attention elsewhere.
- monkin 5y agoStop your BS mate.
- immibis 5y agoHe's right. It is under attack. From him.
- kgwxd 5y agoOh dear Great One, please, save us from this terrible attack on FOSS! Only you can help us!