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This reads less like a post-mortem and more like a Soviet press release. It's generally never a good sign when your post-mortem starts off by casting blame tow

This reads less like a post-mortem and more like a Soviet press release. It's generally never a good sign when your post-mortem starts off by casting blame towards a claimed conspiracy of anonymous foes seeking to harm you based on evidence that you refuse to reveal. It's also missing an accounting of the actual decision made to takeover the communication channels of open source communities without their consent.

arpa 5y ago
Reads like something Put(it)in or Lolkashenka says to justify their actions. "Actions of hostile foreign powers on our soil has forced us to shoot/beat/arrest our citizens." The only difference is that they didn't wait for 10-20-30 years to admit they were wrong; but even that admitting is half-assed and insincere. Yeah, Leenode, you're effed.
rasengan 5y ago
It's not a claim [1]. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27299538 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27299538
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- yjftsjthsd-h 5y ago
  ...that instance is a single person acting in support of freenode, after having not committed anything for years, with a rather lot of folks disagreeing. If anything, it looks like a badly-executed conspiracy in freenode's favor against the wishes of the community.
  - gerikson 5y ago
    Some expansion on the commit here https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27300829 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27300829
- ImPostingOnHN 5y ago
  Your reply does not meaningfully address any of the points of the post it is replying to. Namely, a link to a HN post about a single commit to a single project does nothing to provide specifics underlying the below claim: > "While group contacts from the channels did not contact freenode staff directly, we were rather surprised when we received reports of unpleasant elements operating in the background and influencing these projects, namespaces and channels with false information in order to harm freenode’s administration and staff members’ images and paint a false narrative altogether." It's also missing an accounting of the actual decision made to takeover the communication channels of open source communities without their consent.

arpa 5y ago

Reads like something Put(it)in or Lolkashenka says to justify their actions. "Actions of hostile foreign powers on our soil has forced us to shoot/beat/arrest our citizens." The only difference is that they didn't wait for 10-20-30 years to admit they were wrong; but even that admitting is half-assed and insincere. Yeah, Leenode, you're effed.

rasengan 5y ago

It's not a claim [1]. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27299538 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27299538

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yjftsjthsd-h 5y ago
...that instance is a single person acting in support of freenode, after having not committed anything for years, with a rather lot of folks disagreeing. If anything, it looks like a badly-executed conspiracy in freenode's favor against the wishes of the community.
- gerikson 5y ago
  Some expansion on the commit here https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27300829 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27300829
ImPostingOnHN 5y ago
Your reply does not meaningfully address any of the points of the post it is replying to. Namely, a link to a HN post about a single commit to a single project does nothing to provide specifics underlying the below claim: > "While group contacts from the channels did not contact freenode staff directly, we were rather surprised when we received reports of unpleasant elements operating in the background and influencing these projects, namespaces and channels with false information in order to harm freenode’s administration and staff members’ images and paint a false narrative altogether." It's also missing an accounting of the actual decision made to takeover the communication channels of open source communities without their consent.