Thanks, that's helpful. I have no love for the Koch brothers or libertarians in general, but TBH I think this is a "broken clock is right twice a day" scenario.

Thanks, that's helpful. I have no love for the Koch brothers or libertarians in general, but TBH I think this is a "broken clock is right twice a day" scenario. After reading the case PDF, I'd have to agree with the decision that "engineer" is such a vague term that it shouldn't be restricted like that. It's like trying to limit calling yourself a "thinker" or something. I can see how the radical anti-government folks picked up on that case. FWIW, if he had tried claiming he was a "licensed professional engineer", I would definitely see that as a false/fraudulent claim that the state absolutely has the right to disallow. Regardless, thanks for actually listing names of who's involved. No offense intended to the GP, it just annoys me when people use terms like "heavily suspect people", as that casts aspersions without actually saying who or what. Your links were much more helpful.