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Whenever I see someone who is quite clearly very recently homeless I give them as much money as I can afford to, like $50-100, because I feel like it can get th

Whenever I see someone who is quite clearly very recently homeless I give them as much money as I can afford to, like $50-100, because I feel like it can get them out of homelessness. When I see someone completely out of their mind I don’t feel like anything I can do will make a material difference, just get them different levels of stoned for the next 3 hours.

0xB31B1B 5y ago
the crazy thing is that there are a ton of "recently homeless" folks you encounter in your daily life without even knowing it. Something like 10% of the cal state university students are homeless. My wife is a doc in the ER and deals with a bunch of folks who are going through these issues. Many retail workers, service workers etc are homeless, shower at the gym, and have been living in their car or friends couches for the past few months and will probably find a place to live in the next few months.
- capeterson 5y ago
  If anyone was wondering about a source, as I was, here: https://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-cal-state-homelessness-20160620-snap-story.html https://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-cal-state-homeless... https://presspage-production-content.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/1487/cohomelessstudy.pdf?10000 https://presspage-production-content.s3.amazonaws.com/upload...
londons_explore 5y ago
When you give $50-100, please employ them to do a task. Ie. "Here's $50. Go and buy me some ice cream. You can have another $50 when you bring it to me". It discourages begging and encourages an entrepreneur mentality.
- thebigman433 5y ago
  This is the most stereotype hn comment I can imagine. Why does your goal have to include putting them in some weird spot where youre holding power over them to teach some "entrepreneur mentality". Most of the temporarily homeless population is embarrassed to ask for money, just treat them like an adult if youre going to offer help.
- spoonjim 5y ago
  Sorry, I’m not a complete shitheel.
- deleted 5y ago
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- Griffinsauce 5y ago
  This is completely asinine. You're working on the assumption that these people have the opportunity and bandwidth for entrepreneurship. Guess what homelessness takes away from you? Take a quick peek at Maslow's hierarchy of needs please and map both their situation and what you're asking of them.
- piva00 5y ago
  People aren't dogs, you don't train anyone to have "entrepreneur mentality" by giving them asinine tasks. It is condescending as hell and, worse: it is degrading.
steve76 5y ago
How to cure most social ills: 1. It's illegal to be a victim. Why do you allow yourself to be robbed, or even have a lock put on your door? 2. Penal transport. Since everyone gets to do what they want, I'm rounding up everyone I don't like. I put them on some coast, perhaps one day, the moon. In 10 months, 10 tons of processed materials, like fuel, are waiting on the coast line. If they are one ounce short, the coastline gets microwaved. It would be impossible to commit a crime. Perfectly legal too. All the law has to do is limit the violence. Mental illness, the worst of it, looks just like intoxication. It takes a very long time to bounce back from it, if you ever do.

0xB31B1B 5y ago

the crazy thing is that there are a ton of "recently homeless" folks you encounter in your daily life without even knowing it. Something like 10% of the cal state university students are homeless. My wife is a doc in the ER and deals with a bunch of folks who are going through these issues. Many retail workers, service workers etc are homeless, shower at the gym, and have been living in their car or friends couches for the past few months and will probably find a place to live in the next few months.

capeterson 5y ago
If anyone was wondering about a source, as I was, here: https://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-cal-state-homelessness-20160620-snap-story.html https://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-cal-state-homeless... https://presspage-production-content.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/1487/cohomelessstudy.pdf?10000 https://presspage-production-content.s3.amazonaws.com/upload...

londons_explore 5y ago

When you give $50-100, please employ them to do a task. Ie. "Here's $50. Go and buy me some ice cream. You can have another $50 when you bring it to me". It discourages begging and encourages an entrepreneur mentality.

thebigman433 5y ago
This is the most stereotype hn comment I can imagine. Why does your goal have to include putting them in some weird spot where youre holding power over them to teach some "entrepreneur mentality". Most of the temporarily homeless population is embarrassed to ask for money, just treat them like an adult if youre going to offer help.
spoonjim 5y ago
Sorry, I’m not a complete shitheel.
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Griffinsauce 5y ago
This is completely asinine. You're working on the assumption that these people have the opportunity and bandwidth for entrepreneurship. Guess what homelessness takes away from you? Take a quick peek at Maslow's hierarchy of needs please and map both their situation and what you're asking of them.
piva00 5y ago
People aren't dogs, you don't train anyone to have "entrepreneur mentality" by giving them asinine tasks. It is condescending as hell and, worse: it is degrading.

steve76 5y ago

How to cure most social ills: 1. It's illegal to be a victim. Why do you allow yourself to be robbed, or even have a lock put on your door? 2. Penal transport. Since everyone gets to do what they want, I'm rounding up everyone I don't like. I put them on some coast, perhaps one day, the moon. In 10 months, 10 tons of processed materials, like fuel, are waiting on the coast line. If they are one ounce short, the coastline gets microwaved. It would be impossible to commit a crime. Perfectly legal too. All the law has to do is limit the violence. Mental illness, the worst of it, looks just like intoxication. It takes a very long time to bounce back from it, if you ever do.