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>more homeless people show up to take advantage of the great services. I've never heard of homeless searching for the best place too be homeless! Is there a so

>more homeless people show up to take advantage of the great services. I've never heard of homeless searching for the best place too be homeless! Is there a source for this?

visualradio 5y ago
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/06/us/homeless-population.html https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/06/us/homeless-population.ht... "Where Does California’s Homeless Population Come From?" > As the data shows us, most of the homeless people you pass on the streets every day are in fact Californians. Some may have rented an apartment or once owned a home in your neighborhood. > Several years ago, L.A.H.S.A. added a question to its homeless survey that captured how long a person had been in Los Angeles and where they became homeless. The resulting data dispelled the idea that the homeless population was largely made up of people from out of state. > “The vast majority fell into homelessness in L.A. County,” Mr. Lynn said. > L.A.H.S.A.’s 2019 homeless count found that 64 percent of the 58,936 Los Angeles County residents experiencing homelessness had lived in the city for more than 10 years. Less than a fifth (18 percent) said they had lived out of state before becoming homeless. > In Los Angeles, a renter earning minimum wage ($13.25 an hour) would need to work 79 hours per week to afford a one-bedroom apartment.
- coryrc 5y ago
  "fell into homelessness in L.A. " Total weasel words. You move to LA with one week of money for hotel = "fell into homelessness in L.A.". In Seattle, the local group did a survey like this. About a quarter put their last housing zip code as the one with the shelter, in Pioneer Square, an expensive area if you aren't homeless. GIGO
other_herbert 5y ago
Sounds like LA just advertised themselves as pretty high on the list
laurencerowe 5y ago
It seems to be more that in cold climates governments are compelled to provide shelter for homeless people so they don't die on the street, whereas in warmer climates governments are okay with leaving them on the street. Both San Francisco and New York have similar proportions of homeless people, but New York has shelter beds for almost all of them whereas San Francisco has shelter beds for only 40%.
jdavis703 5y ago
San Francisco has some of the best services available out of all California cities. And yet 70% of homeless people lived in SF for at least a year before becoming homeless while 55% lived in SF for a decade or more. Another 14% lived in the Bay Area. Only 8% came from out of state. Source: https://hsh.sfgov.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/2019HIRDReport_SanFrancisco_FinalDraft-1.pdf https://hsh.sfgov.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/2019HIRDRep... (page 18).
prepend 5y ago
Have you ever lived in Florida? Lots of homeless end up there because it’s warm and nice. It’s kind of interesting talking to folks and learn their stories. I don’t know the percentage, but I literally knew people who would move around cities in the urban sprawl over who had the best food, etc.

>more homeless people show up to take advantage of the great services. I've never heard of homeless searching for the best place too be homeless! Is there a source for this?

visualradio 5y ago

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/06/us/homeless-population.html https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/06/us/homeless-population.ht... "Where Does California’s Homeless Population Come From?" > As the data shows us, most of the homeless people you pass on the streets every day are in fact Californians. Some may have rented an apartment or once owned a home in your neighborhood. > Several years ago, L.A.H.S.A. added a question to its homeless survey that captured how long a person had been in Los Angeles and where they became homeless. The resulting data dispelled the idea that the homeless population was largely made up of people from out of state. > “The vast majority fell into homelessness in L.A. County,” Mr. Lynn said. > L.A.H.S.A.’s 2019 homeless count found that 64 percent of the 58,936 Los Angeles County residents experiencing homelessness had lived in the city for more than 10 years. Less than a fifth (18 percent) said they had lived out of state before becoming homeless. > In Los Angeles, a renter earning minimum wage ($13.25 an hour) would need to work 79 hours per week to afford a one-bedroom apartment.

coryrc 5y ago
"fell into homelessness in L.A. " Total weasel words. You move to LA with one week of money for hotel = "fell into homelessness in L.A.". In Seattle, the local group did a survey like this. About a quarter put their last housing zip code as the one with the shelter, in Pioneer Square, an expensive area if you aren't homeless. GIGO

other_herbert 5y ago

Sounds like LA just advertised themselves as pretty high on the list

laurencerowe 5y ago

It seems to be more that in cold climates governments are compelled to provide shelter for homeless people so they don't die on the street, whereas in warmer climates governments are okay with leaving them on the street. Both San Francisco and New York have similar proportions of homeless people, but New York has shelter beds for almost all of them whereas San Francisco has shelter beds for only 40%.

jdavis703 5y ago

San Francisco has some of the best services available out of all California cities. And yet 70% of homeless people lived in SF for at least a year before becoming homeless while 55% lived in SF for a decade or more. Another 14% lived in the Bay Area. Only 8% came from out of state. Source: https://hsh.sfgov.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/2019HIRDReport_SanFrancisco_FinalDraft-1.pdf https://hsh.sfgov.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/2019HIRDRep... (page 18).

prepend 5y ago

Have you ever lived in Florida? Lots of homeless end up there because it’s warm and nice. It’s kind of interesting talking to folks and learn their stories. I don’t know the percentage, but I literally knew people who would move around cities in the urban sprawl over who had the best food, etc.