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Exactly. Like it or not, accusers have the right to make accusations. Obviously all the predominantly straight, anti-woke men here are going to sympathize wit

Exactly. Like it or not, accusers have the right to make accusations. Obviously all the predominantly straight, anti-woke men here are going to sympathize with the guy and other people won't. But at the end of the day, what's the solution demanded here? You shouldn't be able to call someone out for being an asshole? What about the people whose accusations are true?

SavantIdiot 5y ago
Just like any false accusation: it has to go to court. The truth is life is a fuckmess right now and there is no instantaneous black/white gratification. And if your success is predicated on a large social-media following, I'm afraid there's nothing you can do when it turns on you. At this point at least. Not to digress, but holy hell: I mean look at the fuckmess social media has created, of disinformation and conspiracy theories. Flat earth? Pizzagate? Q? For real?
- cortesoft 5y ago
  > Just like any false accusation: it has to go to court What? This makes no sense. There is no crime being alleged here. No one is trying to send this guy to jail, so what would there be to try in court? Someone said this guy was creepy. Guy says he isn’t creepy and provides some evidence. Everyone is free to look at the situation and make their own judgement. The idea that we are only allowed to believe things proven in court is asinine.
  - newacct583 5y ago
    > Everyone is free to look at the situation and make their own judgement. Except people who believed the accusers. Those people are an "internet mob" who must be condemned. You forgot that part. Only the guy who wrote the blog post is supposed to be believed. It sounds like a joke, but there's a real "it's only bad to believe people without evidence when YOU do it" vibe to the posters here.
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1shooner 5y ago
> You shouldn't be able to call someone out for being an asshole? I don't think it's a new concept that 'calling someone out' should have something behind it: evidence, credibility, or at least plausibility. The problem is that regardless of the truth, evidence is not often likely to exist, who is credible on social media has become wildly subjective, and plausibility is easily back-filled with further innuendo.

SavantIdiot 5y ago

Just like any false accusation: it has to go to court. The truth is life is a fuckmess right now and there is no instantaneous black/white gratification. And if your success is predicated on a large social-media following, I'm afraid there's nothing you can do when it turns on you. At this point at least. Not to digress, but holy hell: I mean look at the fuckmess social media has created, of disinformation and conspiracy theories. Flat earth? Pizzagate? Q? For real?

cortesoft 5y ago
> Just like any false accusation: it has to go to court What? This makes no sense. There is no crime being alleged here. No one is trying to send this guy to jail, so what would there be to try in court? Someone said this guy was creepy. Guy says he isn’t creepy and provides some evidence. Everyone is free to look at the situation and make their own judgement. The idea that we are only allowed to believe things proven in court is asinine.
- newacct583 5y ago
  > Everyone is free to look at the situation and make their own judgement. Except people who believed the accusers. Those people are an "internet mob" who must be condemned. You forgot that part. Only the guy who wrote the blog post is supposed to be believed. It sounds like a joke, but there's a real "it's only bad to believe people without evidence when YOU do it" vibe to the posters here.
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1shooner 5y ago

> You shouldn't be able to call someone out for being an asshole? I don't think it's a new concept that 'calling someone out' should have something behind it: evidence, credibility, or at least plausibility. The problem is that regardless of the truth, evidence is not often likely to exist, who is credible on social media has become wildly subjective, and plausibility is easily back-filled with further innuendo.