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>It's all a racket. It's not. >I'm an unlicensed, non-PE software engineer. Am I allowed to call myself that? In many areas, yeah, you can refer to yourself

>It's all a racket. It's not. >I'm an unlicensed, non-PE software engineer. Am I allowed to call myself that? In many areas, yeah, you can refer to yourself as a software engineer, but the title doesn't mean anything because anyone can refer to themselves as a software engineer; there is nothing defining what that means.

xyzzy_plugh 5y ago
> but the title doesn't mean anything because anyone can refer to themselves as a software engineer; there is nothing defining what that means. This is incorrect. Check out what the PEO has to say about using "software engineer" as a title: https://www.peo.on.ca/public-protection/complaints-and-illegal-practice/report-unlicensed-individuals-or-companies-2#software https://www.peo.on.ca/public-protection/complaints-and-illeg... You can sometimes use the title without being licensed, but you have to be careful, as it can easily be considered misrepresentation.
- Nicksil 5y ago
  >This is incorrect. Check out what the PEO has to say about using "software engineer" as a title Which is why I qualified my statement with "many". >You can sometimes use the title without being licensed, but you have to be careful, as it can easily be considered misrepresentation. That is what this debate is about.
  - xyzzy_plugh 5y ago
    The parent I replied to was referring to Canada, as am I.
- TheCoelacanth 5y ago
  > Software engineering is deemed to fall within the practice of professional engineering: > Where the software is used in a product that already falls within the practice of engineering (e.g. elevator controls, nuclear reactor controls, medical equipment such as gamma-ray cameras, etc.); > Where the use of the software poses a risk to life, health, property or the public welfare; and > Where the design or analysis requires the application of engineering principles within the program (e.g. does engineering calculations), meets a requirement of engineering practice (e.g. a fail-safe system), or requires the application of the principles of engineering in its development. In other words, the vast majority of software engineering does not fall within the practice of professional engineering.

xyzzy_plugh 5y ago

> but the title doesn't mean anything because anyone can refer to themselves as a software engineer; there is nothing defining what that means. This is incorrect. Check out what the PEO has to say about using "software engineer" as a title: https://www.peo.on.ca/public-protection/complaints-and-illegal-practice/report-unlicensed-individuals-or-companies-2#software https://www.peo.on.ca/public-protection/complaints-and-illeg... You can sometimes use the title without being licensed, but you have to be careful, as it can easily be considered misrepresentation.

Nicksil 5y ago
>This is incorrect. Check out what the PEO has to say about using "software engineer" as a title Which is why I qualified my statement with "many". >You can sometimes use the title without being licensed, but you have to be careful, as it can easily be considered misrepresentation. That is what this debate is about.
- xyzzy_plugh 5y ago
  The parent I replied to was referring to Canada, as am I.
TheCoelacanth 5y ago
> Software engineering is deemed to fall within the practice of professional engineering: > Where the software is used in a product that already falls within the practice of engineering (e.g. elevator controls, nuclear reactor controls, medical equipment such as gamma-ray cameras, etc.); > Where the use of the software poses a risk to life, health, property or the public welfare; and > Where the design or analysis requires the application of engineering principles within the program (e.g. does engineering calculations), meets a requirement of engineering practice (e.g. a fail-safe system), or requires the application of the principles of engineering in its development. In other words, the vast majority of software engineering does not fall within the practice of professional engineering.