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>The board’s concern is pretty well precedented. Holding one’s self out as a professional engineer when unlicensed is bog standard violation for licensed AEC pr

>The board’s concern is pretty well precedented. Holding one’s self out as a professional engineer when unlicensed is bog standard violation for licensed AEC professions. Yea that's the entire problem.

Nicksil 5y ago
>Yea that's the entire problem. How so? Do you prefer people without the requisite knowledge, skill, and experience to design and construct the infrastructure you and you family use on a daily basis?
- colinmhayes 5y ago
  I think licensing boards shouldn't be able to fine people for giving speeches.
  - Nicksil 5y ago
    >I think licensing boards shouldn't be able to fine people for giving speeches. You'll be glad to know that this one didn't. The issue being presented isn't that someone gave a speech -- because that would be ridiculous -- it concerns a very specific thing stated within that speech. But you know that already so I'm not sure I understand your comment.
    - colinmhayes 5y ago
      I think a licensing board shouldn't be able to fine people who previously worked as professional engineers who call themselves professional engineers in a brochure about there speech.
brudgers 5y ago
The regulation of building trades goes back to the Code of Hammurabi. Literally as far back as the oldest written laws. The legal precedent is 3500 years older than the First Amendment.
- colinmhayes 5y ago
  "This is the way it's always been done" is a horrible reason for doing something.
  - brudgers 5y ago
    The life of the law has not been logic; it has been experience... The law embodies the story of a nation's development through many centuries, and it cannot be dealt with as if it contained only the axioms and corollaries of a book of mathematics. Oliver Wendell Holmes https://en.m.wikiquote.org/wiki/Oliver_Wendell_Holmes_Jr https://en.m.wikiquote.org/wiki/Oliver_Wendell_Holmes_Jr.

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>The board’s concern is pretty well precedented. Holding one’s self out as a professional engineer when unlicensed is bog standard violation for licensed AEC pr

by colinmhayes 5y ago

Nicksil 5y ago
>Yea that's the entire problem. How so? Do you prefer people without the requisite knowledge, skill, and experience to design and construct the infrastructure you and you family use on a daily basis?
- colinmhayes 5y ago
  I think licensing boards shouldn't be able to fine people for giving speeches.
  - Nicksil 5y ago
    >I think licensing boards shouldn't be able to fine people for giving speeches. You'll be glad to know that this one didn't. The issue being presented isn't that someone gave a speech -- because that would be ridiculous -- it concerns a very specific thing stated within that speech. But you know that already so I'm not sure I understand your comment.
    - colinmhayes 5y ago
      I think a licensing board shouldn't be able to fine people who previously worked as professional engineers who call themselves professional engineers in a brochure about there speech.
brudgers 5y ago
The regulation of building trades goes back to the Code of Hammurabi. Literally as far back as the oldest written laws. The legal precedent is 3500 years older than the First Amendment.
- colinmhayes 5y ago
  "This is the way it's always been done" is a horrible reason for doing something.
  - brudgers 5y ago
    The life of the law has not been logic; it has been experience... The law embodies the story of a nation's development through many centuries, and it cannot be dealt with as if it contained only the axioms and corollaries of a book of mathematics. Oliver Wendell Holmes https://en.m.wikiquote.org/wiki/Oliver_Wendell_Holmes_Jr https://en.m.wikiquote.org/wiki/Oliver_Wendell_Holmes_Jr.