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I don't see how that would have helped OP. He wasn't called out for things he said or did on social media, barring a few people who piled on over extremely "san

I don't see how that would have helped OP. He wasn't called out for things he said or did on social media, barring a few people who piled on over extremely "sanitized" exchanges. I think your "best solution" aligns well with what the OP appeared to be doing, and he still burned. It's important to note that just because the mob forms on social media doesn't mean its consequences are limited to social media.

dvt 5y ago
> I think your "best solution" aligns well with what the OP appeared to be doing, and he still burned. OP has a huge Twitter presence (600k+ followers), and I guess my point is when you have that kind of presence you open yourself up to being a "pseudo-public" person. Sometimes, you need to do this (if you're a politician, for example). But usually you don't. People will get more riled up when the person they're crucifying is famous - clout-chasing is a real thing. Although you (sadly) sometimes have exceptions to this rule, so you're right that it's not a complete solution.
- polote 5y ago
  > OP has a huge Twitter presence (600k+ followers), He has 16k followers https://twitter.com/pasql https://twitter.com/pasql
  - dvt 5y ago
    Oops, mea culpa. I mistook another screenshot in his post to be his own account. Yeah, 16k isn't that much; pretty sad.
    - craigds 5y ago
      > isn't that much 16 thousand people follow him. That's way more than enough to be considered a 'public person'
      - sneak 5y ago
        Not at all. I had more than that before I quit twitter and I am about as minor a figure in a sub-sub-sub-industry as one can be; actually-famous people have millions. Not-quite-famous people have hundreds of thousands.
      - kortilla 5y ago
        No, 16k accounts follow his. Of that, maybe a few hundred actually have users behind them that look at his tweets with any kind of frequency.
      - tolbish 5y ago
        You can buy that kind of following for the price of a bottle of wine.
    - ivanstojic 5y ago
      Historically, even just a few decades ago, if you had reach of sixteen thousand (!!) people, you were incredibly publicly exposed. To think that we now file it as “not that much” is something I can’t wrap my mind around.
      - methodin 5y ago
        It's not much different from compute power increases over the same time period. Once more is the norm then less becomes inadequate.
      - pessimizer 5y ago
        Not really. If you put a classified ad in a Chicago paper saying you were having a garage sale, you were exposed to a million people and had the direct attention of the many thousands who would actually read the ad. If you spent an hour putting up flyers at major intersections near the bar you were playing at on Thursday night, thousands of people per hour would see them. It's important to remember that there are as many people following 10K people as are being followed by 10K people. They aren't really paying attention to 10K people's photos of their lunches or stray observations on Ohio sports.
      - skinnymuch 5y ago
        No one actually has the reach of their entire follower count. If there was a way to analyze your own followers to root out Bots and inactive people, who knows how much lower the number would be. That isn’t counting active users who don’t pay attention to you. And even if they pay attention to you, it might be in a non caring way. Outside of 16K being a big number. That number alone doesn’t mean much when it comes to modern social media. A good easy contrast is the “phenom” of how flighty, not loyal, and weaker of a connection TikTok followers are. I believe it is very hard to go from being big on Tiktok to elsewhere. Contrasted by other social media. Also. This is all coming from some one who has never had more than 200 of so followers on any social media.
yoz-y 5y ago
To add on top of that. It’s really the accusers’ following that is important. The target may not even have a social media profile as long as they have some online identity to point to.

dvt 5y ago

> I think your "best solution" aligns well with what the OP appeared to be doing, and he still burned. OP has a huge Twitter presence (600k+ followers), and I guess my point is when you have that kind of presence you open yourself up to being a "pseudo-public" person. Sometimes, you need to do this (if you're a politician, for example). But usually you don't. People will get more riled up when the person they're crucifying is famous - clout-chasing is a real thing. Although you (sadly) sometimes have exceptions to this rule, so you're right that it's not a complete solution.

polote 5y ago
> OP has a huge Twitter presence (600k+ followers), He has 16k followers https://twitter.com/pasql https://twitter.com/pasql
- dvt 5y ago
  Oops, mea culpa. I mistook another screenshot in his post to be his own account. Yeah, 16k isn't that much; pretty sad.
  - craigds 5y ago
    > isn't that much 16 thousand people follow him. That's way more than enough to be considered a 'public person'
    - sneak 5y ago
      Not at all. I had more than that before I quit twitter and I am about as minor a figure in a sub-sub-sub-industry as one can be; actually-famous people have millions. Not-quite-famous people have hundreds of thousands.
    - kortilla 5y ago
      No, 16k accounts follow his. Of that, maybe a few hundred actually have users behind them that look at his tweets with any kind of frequency.
    - tolbish 5y ago
      You can buy that kind of following for the price of a bottle of wine.
  - ivanstojic 5y ago
    Historically, even just a few decades ago, if you had reach of sixteen thousand (!!) people, you were incredibly publicly exposed. To think that we now file it as “not that much” is something I can’t wrap my mind around.
    - methodin 5y ago
      It's not much different from compute power increases over the same time period. Once more is the norm then less becomes inadequate.
    - pessimizer 5y ago
      Not really. If you put a classified ad in a Chicago paper saying you were having a garage sale, you were exposed to a million people and had the direct attention of the many thousands who would actually read the ad. If you spent an hour putting up flyers at major intersections near the bar you were playing at on Thursday night, thousands of people per hour would see them. It's important to remember that there are as many people following 10K people as are being followed by 10K people. They aren't really paying attention to 10K people's photos of their lunches or stray observations on Ohio sports.
    - skinnymuch 5y ago
      No one actually has the reach of their entire follower count. If there was a way to analyze your own followers to root out Bots and inactive people, who knows how much lower the number would be. That isn’t counting active users who don’t pay attention to you. And even if they pay attention to you, it might be in a non caring way. Outside of 16K being a big number. That number alone doesn’t mean much when it comes to modern social media. A good easy contrast is the “phenom” of how flighty, not loyal, and weaker of a connection TikTok followers are. I believe it is very hard to go from being big on Tiktok to elsewhere. Contrasted by other social media. Also. This is all coming from some one who has never had more than 200 of so followers on any social media.

yoz-y 5y ago

To add on top of that. It’s really the accusers’ following that is important. The target may not even have a social media profile as long as they have some online identity to point to.