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USB-C bashing threads represent the 'HN echo chamber' for me. :) I understand the problems of different cables, I've run into them already. One cable can do Th
by sz4kerto 5y ago
USB-C bashing threads represent the 'HN echo chamber' for me. :)
I understand the problems of different cables, I've run into them already. One cable can do Thunderbolt, the other cannot. One cable transmits 4K video signal, the others doesn't transmit anything. And so on.
However, it is sooooo much better than anything before because at least _most of the time_ stuff works. Chargers charge. Sometimes slower, sometimes faster, but things mostly work.
- ekianjo 5y ago> USB-C bashing threads represent the 'HN echo chamber' for me. :) If only they had proper labeling and specs, all of this could be avoided. If you make all cables look the same, why on Earth would end users believe they are different?
- exporectomy 5y agoAnd if you don't enforce your logo IP use. All sorts of random 2-wire under-spec power-only cables and forbidden male-female extension cables have the USB logo on them. Look at this obviously wrong statement from the article: “All EPR cables shall be visibly identified with EPR cable identification items,” No they won't! Just like all the other stupid confusing and incorrectly implemented "rules" for labelling and orientation and everything. Even if they do it consistently, nobody will know which of all the many confusing logos means what and for some reason OSs don't show the user which component is incompatible in which way so you'll be happily enjoying 100W from your 240W charger unaware it's not actually 240W.
- ksec 5y ago>USB-C bashing threads represent the 'HN echo chamber' for me. :) It is still a rather new phenomenon. Most of HN used to be USB-C supporters. Especially those on Apple camp. For years mentioning every single problem listed in this thread would get downvoted into oblivion. Since most of them didn't bother jumping in to defence their beloved USB-C, I guess they changed their mind.
- jayd16 5y ago> didn't bother jumping in to defence [sic] Why bother? USB will remain dominant and there's nothing to be gained from the millionth iteration of the argument.
- fouric 5y ago> USB-C bashing threads represent the 'HN echo chamber' for me. :) I don't understand how you can possibly call it an "echo chamber" when there are (1) reasoned arguments (2) supported by facts with (3) dissenting opinions. That's almost the opposite of an echo chamber.
- jayd16 5y agoMost users don't notice or care but if you just read HN you'd think USB was controversial.
- texaswhizzle 5y agoIt’s because virtually no one outside of Hacker News seems to have these problems. The rest of the world seems to love the singular port.
- protomyth 5y agoWait until you have to do tech support for someone who has a USB-C charging cable that doesn't work connecting their hard drive. Singular cable wasn't in the specs.
- zlsa 5y agoAny compliant USB-C cable must support USB 2.0 no matter what. If a USB-C cable isn't working with 2.0 data, then it's a noncompliant cable.
- nikanj 5y agoGood luck explaining to your uncle that his USB-C is non-compliant. He just knows that with USB-C you can't even trust the cables anymore.
- hamandcheese 5y agoAt this point, I would assume that any user that buys a hard drive (vs using “the cloud”) is advanced enough to figure it out.