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Have you really never done this? This is the main reason to own cats.

Zababa 5y ago
My cats brought me dead mice a few times, and one time I saw one playing with a mouse and didn't interrupt him. However I've never given them a live mouse to play with. I feel like letting them hunt a mouse and giving them a mouse that you've already caught and could kill quickly is very different.
wffurr 5y ago
Uh yeah, I've never given my cat a live animal to torture on purpose. I also don't let it out to roam and kill all the local songbirds either. If you have a barn full of crops to protect from rats or something, then sure, use a cat as a ratter, though there might be more humane ways to deal with your rat problem. But if you're giving animals to your cat to kill for your own entertainment, then you seriously need help.
- jessaustin 5y ago
  We're talking about mice. They have been the bane of humanity since the dawn of agriculture. Imagining they have some sort of moral worth is living in a dream world.
  - Zababa 5y ago
    Mice in or around my house has no relation to "the bane of humanity since the dawn of agriculture", I live pretty far from any farm, and the most they ate from me is crumbs on the floor. Wanting to kill them is fine, and I understand totally. Letting your cat kill them if he catches them before you, totally fine for me too. He hunted her, it's his prey, why not? On the other hand, giving mice that you caught to your cat so he can torture them is not in the same in my book.
    - jessaustin 5y ago
      I give all mice to the cats, whether dead or alive. Supervising a cat's treatment of a mouse is not something I will ever spend a second of my life doing. Enjoying how demented and evil cats naturally are, I have spent so far, in total, at least twenty minutes over 45 years doing. I'm glad that cats are on our team.
      - GauntletWizard 5y ago
        Enjoyment of the torture of small mammals is literally the textbook definition of psychopathy. I don't care that my cat plays with it's food, but it is grim reality that I try to avoid thinking about, like where my burger comes from. I keep chickens, and I hate the bastards - They're an incredible pain in my ass. I have never slaughtered one for supper, but I know I could do so. Again, though, I would handle it with grim reality.
        jessaustin 5y ago
        If there are "grim realities" involved with eating meat, it may be time to consider vegetarianism, or at least more ethical butchers.
        GauntletWizard 5y ago
        There are grim realities involved in eating vegetables, walking to work, and taking a piss. I will not stop doing any of the above.
      - Zababa 5y ago
        I'll admit that it feels a bit alien to me, but I don't know anything about you so it's not my place to judge. Thanks for sharing your perspective.
        jessaustin 5y ago
        You're welcome, and thanks for the reasoned conversation. You seem to be the only person in the thread not to attempt at amateur psychological diagnosis.
meowface 5y ago
Did you read the whole article? They already had trapped the mouse and then deliberately led the cat to slowly torture the mouse to death. It's one thing if the cat finds the mouse, but to go out of one's way to trap an animal yourself and then present the helpless trapped animal to another animal so they can be tortured for hours is extremely sadistic and psychopathic, in my opinion.

My cats brought me dead mice a few times, and one time I saw one playing with a mouse and didn't interrupt him. However I've never given them a live mouse to play with. I feel like letting them hunt a mouse and giving them a mouse that you've already caught and could kill quickly is very different.

wffurr 5y ago

Uh yeah, I've never given my cat a live animal to torture on purpose. I also don't let it out to roam and kill all the local songbirds either. If you have a barn full of crops to protect from rats or something, then sure, use a cat as a ratter, though there might be more humane ways to deal with your rat problem. But if you're giving animals to your cat to kill for your own entertainment, then you seriously need help.

jessaustin 5y ago
We're talking about mice. They have been the bane of humanity since the dawn of agriculture. Imagining they have some sort of moral worth is living in a dream world.
- Zababa 5y ago
  Mice in or around my house has no relation to "the bane of humanity since the dawn of agriculture", I live pretty far from any farm, and the most they ate from me is crumbs on the floor. Wanting to kill them is fine, and I understand totally. Letting your cat kill them if he catches them before you, totally fine for me too. He hunted her, it's his prey, why not? On the other hand, giving mice that you caught to your cat so he can torture them is not in the same in my book.
  - jessaustin 5y ago
    I give all mice to the cats, whether dead or alive. Supervising a cat's treatment of a mouse is not something I will ever spend a second of my life doing. Enjoying how demented and evil cats naturally are, I have spent so far, in total, at least twenty minutes over 45 years doing. I'm glad that cats are on our team.
    - GauntletWizard 5y ago
      Enjoyment of the torture of small mammals is literally the textbook definition of psychopathy. I don't care that my cat plays with it's food, but it is grim reality that I try to avoid thinking about, like where my burger comes from. I keep chickens, and I hate the bastards - They're an incredible pain in my ass. I have never slaughtered one for supper, but I know I could do so. Again, though, I would handle it with grim reality.
      - jessaustin 5y ago
        If there are "grim realities" involved with eating meat, it may be time to consider vegetarianism, or at least more ethical butchers.
        GauntletWizard 5y ago
        There are grim realities involved in eating vegetables, walking to work, and taking a piss. I will not stop doing any of the above.
    - Zababa 5y ago
      I'll admit that it feels a bit alien to me, but I don't know anything about you so it's not my place to judge. Thanks for sharing your perspective.
      - jessaustin 5y ago
        You're welcome, and thanks for the reasoned conversation. You seem to be the only person in the thread not to attempt at amateur psychological diagnosis.

meowface 5y ago

Did you read the whole article? They already had trapped the mouse and then deliberately led the cat to slowly torture the mouse to death. It's one thing if the cat finds the mouse, but to go out of one's way to trap an animal yourself and then present the helpless trapped animal to another animal so they can be tortured for hours is extremely sadistic and psychopathic, in my opinion.