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>I'd be pretty pissed off too if one day [item] were legal and the next day the courts declared them to be illegal They lied for decades about the dangers of c

>I'd be pretty pissed off too if one day [item] were legal and the next day the courts declared them to be illegal They lied for decades about the dangers of climate change.

jujkjkm 5y ago
Scientists and governments lied about climate change as well. Go back and look up the many, many wrong predictions over the decades. You have no argument.
- shlant 5y ago
  A brand new account to spout climate change denialism... how brave of you
- acdha 5y ago
  Do you have any citation? This is a common claim by deniers, many of whom are paid to create the illusion of scientific disagreement, but it's not true. If you look at, for example, the 1990 IPCC report the subsequent 3 decades were within the report's estimated ranges: https://arstechnica.com/science/2012/12/ipccs-climate-projections-on-target-so-far/ https://arstechnica.com/science/2012/12/ipccs-climate-projec... https://www.theguardian.com/environment/climate-consensus-97-per-cent/2018/jun/25/30-years-later-deniers-are-still-lying-about-hansens-amazing-global-warming-prediction https://www.theguardian.com/environment/climate-consensus-97... Similarly, while certain people like to repeat the claim that scientists predicted global cooling in the 1970s it's grossly overstating the degree to which that was taken seriously by the academic community back then and how quickly it was conclusively rejected long before the turn of the century. https://arstechnica.com/science/2016/06/that-70s-myth-did-climate-science-really-call-for-a-coming-ice-age/ https://arstechnica.com/science/2016/06/that-70s-myth-did-cl...
  - tzs 5y ago
    Also worth noting about cooling predictions was that the models that predicted cooling still predicted warming from greenhouse gases. They predicted net cooling because smog and other particulate emissions were also rising, and those have a cooling effect. They were assuming that smog levels would continue to rise faster than greenhouse gas levels, and so the cooling effect would beat the warming effect. Around that time people get serious in the US and much of the rest of the world about air quality, and smog not only stopped increasing in many places actually decreased significantly.
- chefkoch 5y ago
  Judges hate this trick.

>I'd be pretty pissed off too if one day [item] were legal and the next day the courts declared them to be illegal They lied for decades about the dangers of climate change.

jujkjkm 5y ago

Scientists and governments lied about climate change as well. Go back and look up the many, many wrong predictions over the decades. You have no argument.

shlant 5y ago
A brand new account to spout climate change denialism... how brave of you
acdha 5y ago
Do you have any citation? This is a common claim by deniers, many of whom are paid to create the illusion of scientific disagreement, but it's not true. If you look at, for example, the 1990 IPCC report the subsequent 3 decades were within the report's estimated ranges: https://arstechnica.com/science/2012/12/ipccs-climate-projections-on-target-so-far/ https://arstechnica.com/science/2012/12/ipccs-climate-projec... https://www.theguardian.com/environment/climate-consensus-97-per-cent/2018/jun/25/30-years-later-deniers-are-still-lying-about-hansens-amazing-global-warming-prediction https://www.theguardian.com/environment/climate-consensus-97... Similarly, while certain people like to repeat the claim that scientists predicted global cooling in the 1970s it's grossly overstating the degree to which that was taken seriously by the academic community back then and how quickly it was conclusively rejected long before the turn of the century. https://arstechnica.com/science/2016/06/that-70s-myth-did-climate-science-really-call-for-a-coming-ice-age/ https://arstechnica.com/science/2016/06/that-70s-myth-did-cl...
- tzs 5y ago
  Also worth noting about cooling predictions was that the models that predicted cooling still predicted warming from greenhouse gases. They predicted net cooling because smog and other particulate emissions were also rising, and those have a cooling effect. They were assuming that smog levels would continue to rise faster than greenhouse gas levels, and so the cooling effect would beat the warming effect. Around that time people get serious in the US and much of the rest of the world about air quality, and smog not only stopped increasing in many places actually decreased significantly.
chefkoch 5y ago
Judges hate this trick.